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Post by Counting Crows on Aug 16, 2010 22:32:55 GMT 1
So, irrespective of what happens for this season just gone, we still can't really trust Ken Tucker's assurance that ground criteria will not be used at the end of the coming season?
Madness.
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Post by huwjones on Aug 17, 2010 1:15:03 GMT 1
Someone asked earlier about the costs or who's paying for these appeals well here's a thought for you what happens if the appeals are successfull like Risca,Pontyclun then I think you will find it is us clubs who will be paying, costs will be bourne by the Welsh league so in effect all clubs will be paying for any successful appeals , if the clubs lose then its at their costs.
"The grounds of the appeal to the Secretary General was 'The undersigned clubs wish to appeal against the refusal of the FAW to accept the decision of the clubs at the WL SGM on 9th August 2010, to operate next season (2010/2011) with 54 clubs in a 3 division 18 clubs per division set up."
Now I know we went round in circles and I am a dull builder but I thought Mr Loveridge, of Barry Towns proposal was that we go back to the league and ask if we can go with 18/18/18 the LMC did that and was told no,would have to see the minutes obviously as i say the meeting was chaotic.
Alun, yes events have moved on and you obviously have other things to occupy your time, you like me want whats best for your club, unfortunately this fiasco is causing untold animosity amongst players, supporters, clubs that I just hope it can get resolved once and for all and we can get back to playing football.
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Post by gcnc on Aug 17, 2010 7:58:57 GMT 1
The attack on Carolynn Purcell seems a bit OTT. Looking at the Cwmbran Town situation from the outside it seems as if the club were on a downward spiral before she stepped in. She has always struck me as a decent woman with her heart in the club, trying to do her best. She appears to be the only one 'man' enough to have a go at turning the club around
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Post by Counting Crows on Aug 17, 2010 10:38:19 GMT 1
You're pretty much correct Gcnc. The club was being kept afloat in the WPL first by one man (hint: his name is on our shirts) and then, when he resigned, some very hard working men who (somhow byy pulling many rabbits from the same hat) kept the club from folding.
Once relegated to the WL it was clear fresh imputus was required. CP is hard working and loves the club. She isn't a one-man band though, as there is a senior committee helping her and of course there's a very large youth section, which as has been stated on another thread, is quickly becoming very successful.
And when these youth players reach the right age there will be an under-18s team, and WL reserve team, and eventually a WL senior waiting for them. In short, a conveyor belt from U6 to WL...
(Probable) demotion to the third division because of a restructure is not great, but there is a bigger picture here which people are rarely interested in seeing. And i'm getting tired of responding to them, so will probably give up soon! ;D
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Post by Crowthrice on Aug 17, 2010 17:50:04 GMT 1
All of this just shows that there is a massive dissatisfaction with the running of the Welsh League.
Some people seem to adopt the appeasal line-peace in my time comes to mind-and just accept what they are told. This even though the message has proved to be completely false in the past.
Others are seeking to get things put right and would prefer a delay to make this possible. Some have a self interest to preserve Welsh League status, the others I would suggest are supporting them and not prepared to die in a ditch over demotion within the Welsh League.
Then we have the ostriches" it doesn't affect me".
Harmony is unlikely to break out any time soon.Freezing temperatures
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Post by Bunch of jokers on Aug 17, 2010 19:20:49 GMT 1
I can understand the appeals in Div 3 after allowing Pontyclun and Risca to keep Division 3 status. However i am disgusted with Ely Rangers, UWIC, Cwmbran and Llanwern.
You knew the ruling and the start of the season and were happy to go along with it, but because you had very poor sides not good enough for the divisions that you were playing in you appeal.
Take it on the chin like other sides have managed to do. I had the misfortune to watch a few of the above sides and it came as no surprise to me that you were relegated.
Ton Pentre seem to have accepted their fate yet Ely who came below them in the league have appealed.
I and most people involved in the Welsh League have had enough of the lot of you and you 8 teams have now gone and made it worse.
Lets hope very much that you loose your appeals and the cash that you spent.
Go play in the divisions that you deserve after your poor showing in 2009/2010 and let the decent football teams get on with football.
YOU DESERVED TO GO DOWN!!!! and so say all of us
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Post by Counting Crows on Aug 17, 2010 20:52:48 GMT 1
"knew the ruling and the start of the season and were happy to go along with it"Which ruling would that be i wonder? The one about ground criteria by any chance?  All this ranting by those not in the know is almost making me glad that we're helping to delay the season. Thankfully we've always been a disliked club, so we've nothing to lose i guess...
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Post by guest on Aug 17, 2010 21:37:02 GMT 1
counting crows, just a quick one to point out that you dont meet ground criteira mate!
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Post by Ely hater on Aug 17, 2010 21:42:51 GMT 1
Crow as you seem to know everything then was ground criteria and the relegation/promotion issue applicable to Divsions 1 and Divisions 2?  ? |
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Post by ian on Aug 17, 2010 21:58:49 GMT 1
Great posting mate . counting crows what a sad thing to say , you and your band of billy no mates are holding up the season and yes hes right you dont have the criteria for welsh league status.
I hope the welsh fa kick the lot of you out to your respective divisions and let us play some football.
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Post by Crowthrice on Aug 17, 2010 23:18:05 GMT 1
COVERED STAND
All clubs must have a permanent covered stand, made from solid materials, erected close to the playing area and on or near the half way line. It must be capable of accommodating a minimum of 100 spectators. The floor of the stand must have a solid foundation of concrete, tarmac, paved slabs or steel. (No other material is acceptable).
Well last time i was at cwmbran Town. I stood in a covered area under the seated stand that was capable of holding 300 or more people. The pitch was about 30 yards away. Perhaps i was dreaming, in which case -keep on dreaming
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Post by Guest on Aug 18, 2010 0:56:47 GMT 1
Criteria as far as i know at Cwmbran is far better than a a lot of WFL Grounds. And yes the covered area does meet WFL Standards. Remember the 1st floor seated area is not part of the WFL criteria, only a covered area to cope with 100 spectators as the last person pointed out he was correct.
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Post by Guest on Aug 18, 2010 1:14:49 GMT 1
All these clubs have the perfect right to appeal that is why we are in a democratic society not what the FAW want dictatorship.
About time clubs stood up to them. Well done to you all. Makes me really sad clubs voted 30 to 20 to keep the 18, 18, 18.
But when it came to the crunch they did not have the bottle to see it through.
If it is the wish of UEFA to reduce domestic leagues to 48 then all you clubs just giving in to the FAW demands just tell me when the English Premier League and the three divisions below that are going to toe the line. Just think on that exactly the same for them as it is with us.
Beat the FAW as Newport County, Merthyr and others did years ago.
The trouble is with the majoriy of clubs who are sitting prity they dont give a toss. So just remember some of you one day may seek help from other clubs on issues you believe in, but hen you may no get the backing you ant?
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Post by Totally Bemused on Aug 18, 2010 9:30:20 GMT 1
We want to play football you mug!
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Post by Totally Bemused on Aug 18, 2010 9:32:07 GMT 1
COVERED STAND All clubs must have a permanent covered stand, made from solid materials, erected close to the playing area and on or near the half way line. It must be capable of accommodating a minimum of 100 spectators. The floor of the stand must have a solid foundation of concrete, tarmac, paved slabs or steel. (No other material is acceptable). Well last time i was at cwmbran Town. I stood in a covered area under the seated stand that was capable of holding 300 or more people. The pitch was about 30 yards away. Perhaps i was dreaming, in which case -keep on dreaming 30 Yards from the pitch? THIRTY Yards?? Try 60 if you were under a cover! Priceless! |
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