decision been made then.......

[crowthrice]

Can't blame them though.They have worked hard to get where they are and feel the injustice of being relegated after finishing above teams that are now safe notwithstanding superior facilities in at least one case.

I think we should ourselves in their shoes before condemning them

I thihk you should choose a different target for your anger.

[alunevans]

I have just been shown this board. What concerns me is the utter failure of some club reps - AFC Porth's in particular, though I suppose he does have to defend his club's contribution to the management Committee - to comprehend what is happening under their noses.
In fact, the clubs did not vote for the 16 team divisions in the 2009 AGM: they simply voted down an amendment to stagger it over three years. Huw Jones has admitted that he thought the word of FAW was that of God. Would he and others have done so if hey had known better ?
The clubs appealed because they knew it was not so, not least having heard so many contradictory statements which had served to highlight the arrogance of the top table. The later events served to show the failure of LMC to fulfil the trust of their member clubs. They should all offer themselves for re-election.
And, by the way, I did not sack Terry Yorath: only an idiot hiding behind anonymity would use that story as a measure of my competence

[Guest]

"Terry Yorath - Hard Man, Hard Knocks!" Great, revealing book!

[alunevans]

It is a very good book - but it only tells you what he believes and not what he knows. Still, probably the best book by a welsh footballer

[gcnc]

Aug 14, 2010 19:30:13 GMT 1 alunevans said:

I have just been shown this board. What concerns me is the utter failure of some club reps - AFC Porth's in particular, though I suppose he does have to defend his club's contribution to the management Committee - to comprehend what is happening under their noses.
In fact, the clubs did not vote for the 16 team divisions in the 2009 AGM: they simply voted down an amendment to stagger it over three years. Huw Jones has admitted that he thought the word of FAW was that of God. Would he and others have done so if hey had known better ?
The clubs appealed because they knew it was not so, not least having heard so many contradictory statements which had served to highlight the arrogance of the top table. The later events served to show the failure of LMC to fulfil the trust of their member clubs. They should all offer themselves for re-election.
And, by the way, I did not sack Terry Yorath: only an idiot hiding behind anonymity would use that story as a measure of my competence

Perhaps, as a Newport County fan, I might be permitted to point out that you, Mr Evans, are the last person to accuse anyone in football of arrogance. Perhaps a better measure of your competance, or lack of it, is that the club you and the FAW did so little to help in the early 90's, played their first game in the Blue Square Conference yesterday

[Guest]

Thank you "GCNC" I was beginning to think I was the only one.....

[huwjones]

Alun can tell like me you had a good educasion (JOKE) at Porth Grammar School.
What exactly you accusing me of ?, voting with anything the LMC want to bring in ?, not guilty I'm afraid.
I listened intently to your speech at the June 2009 AGM, I had to I was sat next you, and understood what you were saying that we as clubs didnt have to accept the FAW strategic plan as we are an independent league, but you didnt propose anything, or put it in writing to the LMC did you.
I voted against the introduction over 1 season, thought it should be phased in over a number seasons, so thats not voting with everything the LMC wanted is it.
Yes we at AFC Porth have an affiliation to the Chairman of the LMC , he was a longstanding ,17yrs, hardworking, Secretary of the club, but the only thing you can accuse me of is voting for the benefit of AFC Porth, thats the club badge I proudly wear and the only thing that comes into mind when I am voting.
Had some friendly banter with Chris Jones of Ton Pentre at the last meeting over why I wasnt voting for 18-18-18, and supporting their cause to get re instated in Div 1, like i explained I dont want to go through that farce again next season so I vote on whats best for my club, not anybody ele.
I have critised the LMC on here for the farce that has been taking place, and I have no doubt that this scenario could have been avoided, but I also have tremendous gratitude for the tireless work they do, its a thankless task, and without them there wouldn't be any football.
Can you answer me this if UWIC hadn't been relegated would we be even having this conversation I think not, Pontyclun, Risca won their appeals and good luck to them, I would have done the same and gone against the LMC if it meant staying up .I do have some sympathy with the other clubs having been relegated out of the W League ourselves quite recently I know how important Welsh League football is to a club to attract players,sponsorship etc.
Clubs voted to bring the Strategic Plan in they knew the consequences, and anyone who says they didnt are naive to say the least, now get on with it.Unfortunately i sense a divide of clubs appearing over this and that cant be a good thing.
Better get that very dangerous structure you call a stand repaired, don't think that would pass the ground criteria.
All the best for the coming season.

[dean F]

At a meeting yesterday afternoon held at Leckwith Stadium, 9 WL clubs met and agreed to put in an appeal against the FAW's decision not to accept the clubs decision to stay with 54 clubs for the 2010/2011 season.

The grounds of the appeal to the Secretary General was 'The undersigned clubs wish to appeal against the refusal of the FAW to accept the decision of the clubs at the WL SGM on 9th August 2010, to operate next season (2010/2011) with 54 clubs in a 3 division 18 clubs per division set up."

It was agreed by all the clubs to go to arbitration under rule 25.3, although this is much more expensive is was adjudged that this would be the best way forward.

The appeal was handed into the FAW this morning. The clubs that signed the appeal were:

Cwmbran Town
Ely Rangers
Cardiff Bay Harlequins
UWIC
Llanwern
Troedyrhiw
Seven Sisters
Llantwit Fadre
Pentwyn Dynamos

[Totally Bemused]

I hope all nine of you go bankrupt as a result of this shocking action!

[Football Fan]

If you dont want to be in our leagues, then bloody well resign from them, and go and play elsewhere. Let the rest of us get on with our football.

[matt]

here we go again ,9 clubs more appeals, sad state of affairs as we have no hope of starting the season , pontyclun and risca started all this off and now they have gone very quiet,
My club the crows i see have appealed as well , well our self appointed chairwoman get of your high

horse and accept our club is in a sad state of affairs and until you step down there is no way forward.
Very fortunate to progress on sat in welsh cup ,please step down now

[guest]

i have to be honest and say i thought this was a joke, but having read a couple of websites i find its true! Its an absolute joke, face facts lads you werent good enough on the field! and i also agree with the prvious poster, IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN PULL OUT OF THE LEAGUE!!!! if this holds up the fixtures again then i for one wont go anywhere near any of the clubs involved. and as a player i will talk anyone out of joining any of these clubs.

[guest]

anyone know how much this will cost? i would love to know because i wont be paying a penny to enter cwmbran stadium ever again if the current comittee have agreed to pay for this.

[Counting Crows]

I'm sure one day we'll actually know what went on in all these meetings and all these votes. One day i'm sure we'll all get to see the minutes - doctored or not. One day...

Or maybe not. A transparent process would be too much to ask for.

As for these latest sets of appeals, well, i wonder how many clubs would do the same if they were in that position? Again we'll never know. Is self-preservation a strong enough instinct?

When will it all end...?

Something i do know though, Matt, is that Miss C Purcell was voted-in as chairman of CTAFC.

Which goal was your favourite on Saturday? Hibs' first - great finish, and our third - lovely inter-play, were my picks.

[alunevans]

gcnc - I coul spend happy hours reliving the Newport-FAW case, but let me just say that you gain in self-awareness in standing on both sides of the fence. And as a long-standing shareholder of Newport, i am pleased to see them reach their milestone.

Huw - events have regrettably moved beyond the points raised, but I must remind you that I outlined three options at the 2009 AGM, but the clubs would not run with any because they were wrongly told there were NO options. And they have been misled ever since.
As for our "stand", I agree with you, but hasn't Ken Tucker told successive meetings that ground criteria won't count in deciding promotion/relegation issues in 2011. This is policy making on the run just like the way this farce was created