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Post by taxpayer on Jul 15, 2013 21:42:55 GMT 1
We may not all be happy with certain aspects of the Faw but the rubbish which has been written in the last week has been utter nonsense.They were dragged to a meeting last Tuesday on an agenda which stated Barry and Llanelli with no extra details.15 of them decided they did not want to visit their decision.They needed two thirds which is 20 to overturn standing orders to revisit their decision, I have read about conspiracy theories,trying to keep Barry out of the league at all costs Jealousy theories all smoke and daggers .Barry Town is a limited company whose owner including their history bought and paid for.The accounts are up to date and can be seen at companies house.Why he stopped the football after two years of an agreement to pay the football bills is beyond me but he did.Barry Town Utd is a new club and should have to go through the pyramid the same as the rest of us had to.
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Post by bullshitbuster on Jul 15, 2013 22:54:56 GMT 1
The truth will out.
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Post by firewind2013 on Jul 15, 2013 23:01:04 GMT 1
Ignorant response from mattbryant there... If you did your research you would know that Barry had numerous bid rejected by the chairman. So they did try to use their money to save themselves No need to be jealous if the fact that a committee set up only two years ago has managed to raise.money run a club and keep more solvent than others in that short time.
Norma, you just need to take your obvious and well known personal vendettas and put them asside for the good of welsh football and not yourself. You are no better than many if the faw councilors...
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Post by taxpayer on Jul 16, 2013 9:39:34 GMT 1
I find it amazing that if you don,t agree with a cause it must be personal,I have every sympathy with the actual people who are involved but the insults etc that have been hurled are disgusting. I appreciate the fact that you are fighting for a club but the repercussions in future seasons could really damage Welsh football.No more comments let the courts do their bit.
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Post by brillo on Jul 16, 2013 10:11:02 GMT 1
The situation at Barry Town emulates from their vast overspend in their glory days. In desperation they took the offer of Loverings money and left themselves open to what has happened. All the talk of the history of Barry means nothing as its the here and now that counts. They have no right to be treated any differently to a club who formed say 2 years ago and who have never won a game. Lets not lose sight of the fact the club failed to fulfil their fixtures last season and the outcome was spangled league table making the club and league a laughing stock not to mention all the wasted time and expense of every team in the division
Yes there is a lot of sympathy for the people who hold Barry Town close to their hearts but in the grand scheme of things they are just another club that have gone by the way. I wonder if Barry Town would have shown any concern if Seven Sisters were asking of support. It would more than likely be a case of Seven who?
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Post by bullshitbuster on Jul 16, 2013 11:22:19 GMT 1
Again, so much inaccurate stuff in that post there that I don't know where to start.
The truth will out.
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Post by rocky on Jul 16, 2013 11:27:04 GMT 1
Errr Brillo - the lack of fulfilling any fixtures last season was NOT down to the people running the club!
We wanted to play - its the current rules that allowed one man who happened NOT to like us to prevent us from playing those games - THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY RUNNING THE CLUB WERE READY TO PLAY! THAT IS WHY WE CAMPAIGN FOR RULE CHANGES SO THIS CANNOT HAPPEN AGAIN TO ANOTHER CLUB.
And in response to another comment on here, OF COURSE WE WOULD SUPPORT THIS ACTION IF IT WERE BEING TAKEN BY ANOTHER CLUB. No community club should be treated this way, and if you want to protect YOUR CLUB'S FUTURE, YOU WILL SURELY STAND WITH US NOT AGAINST US?!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ANIMOSITY OUT THERE, ITS CRAZY - EVEN BANGOR CITY HAVE SHOWN US THEIR SUPPORT, AND THEY HATE US!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 12:51:04 GMT 1
Rocky, were Barry so outspoken when 7 teams got relegated in 09/10 when "community club"'s were thrown out of the league for restructuring?
No animosity, I just can't see how you expect everyone else to feel as passionately about it as you do!
The truth will out
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Post by foxmulder on Jul 16, 2013 13:48:57 GMT 1
Yeah we were. Look on twitter, it's all over it. But I admit we weren't as vocal as we are now. However, the reason for this is because at the time we were fighting against Stuart Lovering closing our club down to turn it into a cocktail bar!!!
Can't people get this through their heads. A man bought a Welsh football club, with no agreement with any supporters club, got fed up of it, and tried to turn it into a cocktail bar. This shit can actually happen to your clubs. If other clubs are standing up against this shit then surely we have to group together.
It's astonishing how many incorrect facts are floating around this board. Welsh club football is a small market, and our facts are bombarded over twitter every day trying to get our message across (so much that even I'm fed up of seeing it!!). And then there are people here making judgements based on things that are not true!!! How can people get their facts so wrong???
Just to wipe some out - yes Barry tried numerous times to buy the club off Lovering. He raised the price at the last minute and also put in crazy, crazy clauses in like PLAYERS COULD NOT BE PAID FOR THE NEXT 6 YEARS!!! Seriously, put yourselves in our shoes and imagine trying to work with that lunatic.
Barry's plight is down to overspending during their glory years? Not true. Completely untrue. The debt was paid off.
There is the argument that a man bought a football club and he pulled his club out of the league. Therefore the club is a new club, and should start at the bottom. But come on, it's NOT as black and white as that.
Barry supporters paid ALL of Lovering fines, paid ALL of the FAW fees, pay ALL of the council fees and ALL other bills for 2 years. Players and supporters were literally at the ground ready for the Ton Pentre game before Lovering, who 'promised' he wouldn't get involved with football matters, pulled the plug. This was sabotage and spite.
If you want to be black and white about it, then fine. That means any man can do this to any club. How can people not get this? Yes, this is about our club (that's obvious), but also for Welsh football??? We NEED a change in the rules to protect our clubs and the Barry case is the relevant example. But as has been reported by Port Talbot's chairman that he has witnessed council members fall asleep during meetings. Come on, advocate that!
Please can people get their facts right before attacking us. If you do and then still disagree with us, then there's not much more we can do, but at least get them right.
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Post by bullshitbuster on Jul 16, 2013 13:53:25 GMT 1
On a related note, Welsh Premier clubs Aberystwyth Town, Rhyl and Airbus UK have each today publicly declared their support for Port Talbot Town's stance re. FAW reform.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 14:10:17 GMT 1
Barry people, I don't think I've seen one comment arguing the fact that this Lovering chap is a Grade A tosser. I don't think anyone has argued that the existing league/FAW committee's are farcical and do need a reform.
I have a QUESTION as I do not know the answer - why did the committee sell to Lovering in the first place? I know it could happen to any club but I suppose you rely on the committee at the time to make the correct decisions for your club, something that appears from the OUTSIDE to have failed - apologies if this has been written on Twitter a copious amount of times but I don't fancy trawling Twitter for the answers.
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Post by rocky on Jul 16, 2013 14:38:28 GMT 1
As a committee we didn't sell to Lovering. He bought the business 'Barry Town AFC Ltd' from the Administrators. The supporters had no say in the matter.
I've always thought though that surely if the Administrators and FAW had done their checks correctly, they would have discovered he was in no position to run a football club, and as it turned out was not a fit and proper person to do so.
The FAW could and should have stepped in a long time ago to kick him out but chose to ignore what was happening - We're merely trying to make sure that it cannot happen again - to our club or any other. We implore you stand with us on this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 14:46:05 GMT 1
There are high profile cases where due diligance have failed in the past i.e. Portsmouth.
Not like the FAW to bury their heads in the sand :-) !
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Post by rocky on Jul 16, 2013 15:02:54 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 15:19:18 GMT 1
Rocky, if you re-read what I've written I've haven't directly disagreed with any of your arguement really, I only commented originally as I agreed with some of Matt's points which were getting lambasted.
Anyway, to quote one of yours "the truth will out" :-)
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