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Post by unclefester on May 21, 2018 13:17:52 GMT 1
This is the problem when you have a money man behind the scenes who wants a club in the Prem at all costs. Supporters are no longer important as if the club can reach the European promised land like TNS then fans will be largely irrelevant.
As for the Chairman, he’s a tidy bloke actually, but I’m sure he wants what he wants for the money he has put in over the years. Sadly it’s all going the same way as the main leagues in other countries where fans have no input into their clubs.
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Post by rct on May 21, 2018 13:24:22 GMT 1
Personally and it is just my opinion.
Firstly, I think its unfair that clubs are prioritising making improvements to their facilities in order to progress, whilst other clubs are seeking to progress and then retrospectively make the required investment in infrastructure.
I also think the FAW have made a complete shambles of the situation by allowing clubs to ground share in order to avoid diverting money, from their playing budget, to the upfront investment required for promotion.
Secondly, Ponty Town, I feel are showing a lack of consideration for the town they are supposedly representing. Once club loses that connection, it is effectively a nomadic organisation representing no-one but a small group of individuals whose ambitions must, by definition be self centred.
I do feel for any Pontypridd Town supporter who has no clarity about the clubs future plans. There will be a stadium build at USW over the next year or so and "a" club will compete out of the new facility. Whether that "club" is Pontypridd Town, USW or some Frankenstein combo remains to be seen.
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Post by majormoments on May 21, 2018 13:25:18 GMT 1
It's not all going the same way. Not every club has a "money man".
Shame the money man couldn't find a ground if he's that ambitious or is he waiting for an offer from usw. Seems he is looking for a short cut and is not bothered by any collateral damage
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Post by unclefester on May 21, 2018 14:21:42 GMT 1
It's not all going the same way. Not every club has a "money man". Shame the money man couldn't find a ground if he's that ambitious or is he waiting for an offer from usw. Seems he is looking for a short cut and is not bothered by any collateral damage Fair comment, but I think what I was getting at (or trying to) was that the FAW are now pushing criteria to the point that many clubs just can’t compete, and those with a backer or decent sponsor will do ok. Ultimately I fear that it’s these clubs that can attract money who will survive. If you do well in the next year or two and win D1, can you find the money for all the additional ground requirements ? It’s not a dig at Llantwit at all, it’s just using you as an example as with everything you have achieved (which is fantastic) it won’t be enough to go up again. Ponty had no chance of going up at Ponty Park, but they have found a way, with a money man and a move away. The question is does the club sell its soul to achieve Prem football. I hope they keep the name and start to rebuild some links with the town as even playing at USW they could still represent the town. If they decide to change the name and become USW FC they will have sold the soul of the club. I wonder how they would manage if, like the 2nd team, the junior teams all broke away as happened a few years ago. I’m sure there is something in the FAW criteria about having age grade football in future.
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Post by majormoments on May 21, 2018 14:33:33 GMT 1
As things stand i don't think Llantwit could afford to go up again. That being said i think we surprised everyone with tier 2 status.
With no wage bill and a clubhouse doing quite well the club will continue to grow and I think the next target is another 150 seats so if we are good enough we can stay up.
My main point is the club has probably spent at least 50k since our amatuer league days. I wonder how much ponty have spent on players in the same time period. I would guess a fair bit more.
Both sides will be in div 1 next season and one will be playing in their own town.
Wonder who has got best value for money
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 15:17:24 GMT 1
But as usual you ask a question and get no reply. Pontypridd Town has ceased to have anything to do with the town of Pontypridd. A handfull of people from the Town will watch Ponty in league 1 next year. Unlike both Ammanford and Llantwit who despite ground sharing for a season have kept their towns in their hearts. Pontypridd fc will build from the bottom but will play in the town and be supported by the town.
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Post by majormoments on May 21, 2018 15:33:39 GMT 1
Llantwit will not be ground sharing, please read above posts
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 16:03:07 GMT 1
The RCT council have a lot to answer for imo. Surely a football hotbed such as Ponty should have a reasonable standard ground to meet criteria or be there abouts. The fact is that the football team are sparsely supported and in the eyes of RCT play third or forth fiddle to the likes of rugby, the Lido pool, bowls etc. That said though, have Ponty Town campaigned hard enough ? What does the local MP say about it ? The fact is that the local MP and council have probably not a clue that Ponty have gained promotion to the second highest tier of Welsh football. It seems there are more questions than answers but I really hope that they emerge from the next season in Leckwith as Ponty Town FC playing in their locality for years to come. I really fear for Ponty playing at Leckwith especially if certain people walk away. Ps on the Scott Hillman thing, he’s had more clubs than a battered seal and chased the dollar up and down every valley. It’s about the club not individuals.
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Post by majormoments on May 21, 2018 16:23:24 GMT 1
His Dad quoted 8 teams before the age of 30 not counting youth teams.
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Post by nicky on May 21, 2018 20:00:51 GMT 1
His Dad quoted 8 teams before the age of 30 not counting youth teams. To be fair, two of those clubs were Chelsea and Celtic like! If you're counting adult teams only thats 6 in my count? He's been at Ponty for like 4 years or something now, which in Welsh League terms is close to testimonial territory. Anyway, Scott's a lovely lad - and this topic isn't really about how many or how little clubs someone has played for.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 20:26:59 GMT 1
Your right,this thread has nothing to do with Scott Hillman other than hes been a great leader on the pitch. So whoever passes on messages to Max Ridsdale Ask him what he has to say about the personal threats coming out of his club. Every day I get more information regarding Pontypridd Towns ground moves and every day it becomes crystal clear that the club was Unneccasarily moved from the town. Smoke and mirrors
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 20:30:08 GMT 1
The RCT council have a lot to answer for imo. Surely a football hotbed such as Ponty should have a reasonable standard ground to meet criteria or be there abouts. The fact is that the football team are sparsely supported and in the eyes of RCT play third or forth fiddle to the likes of rugby, the Lido pool, bowls etc. That said though, have Ponty Town campaigned hard enough ? What does the local MP say about it ? The fact is that the local MP and council have probably not a clue that Ponty have gained promotion to the second highest tier of Welsh football. It seems there are more questions than answers but I really hope that they emerge from the next season in Leckwith as Ponty Town FC playing in their locality for years to come. I really fear for Ponty playing at Leckwith especially if certain people walk away. Ps on the Scott Hillman thing, he’s had more clubs than a battered seal and chased the dollar up and down every valley. It’s about the club not individuals. Apparently the move away was unneccasary and could have been resolved between club and RCT . I get more information daily regarding what could have been done at Ynysyngharad park. And every it dismays me what has been done.
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Post by unclefester on May 21, 2018 21:54:40 GMT 1
The RCT council have a lot to answer for imo. Surely a football hotbed such as Ponty should have a reasonable standard ground to meet criteria or be there abouts. The fact is that the football team are sparsely supported and in the eyes of RCT play third or forth fiddle to the likes of rugby, the Lido pool, bowls etc. That said though, have Ponty Town campaigned hard enough ? What does the local MP say about it ? The fact is that the local MP and council have probably not a clue that Ponty have gained promotion to the second highest tier of Welsh football. It seems there are more questions than answers but I really hope that they emerge from the next season in Leckwith as Ponty Town FC playing in their locality for years to come. I really fear for Ponty playing at Leckwith especially if certain people walk away. Ps on the Scott Hillman thing, he’s had more clubs than a battered seal and chased the dollar up and down every valley. It’s about the club not individuals. Apparently the move away was unneccasary and could have been resolved between club and RCT . I get more information daily regarding what could have been done at Ynysyngharad park. And every it dismays me what has been done.Careful Pontyultra, there will be demands to know your true identity, your inside leg measurement and a copy of your cv showing all the clubs you’ve volunteered at for the last 100 years, else you will be shouted down as a nobody 😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 23:18:40 GMT 1
Apparently the move away was unneccasary and could have been resolved between club and RCT . I get more information daily regarding what could have been done at Ynysyngharad park. And every it dismays me what has been done. Careful Pontyultra, there will be demands to know your true identity, your inside leg measurement and a copy of your cv showing all the clubs you’ve volunteered at for the last 100 years, else you will be shouted down as a nobody 😂😂😂😂😂 Oh they know who I am already. That's why they've threatened me verbally and physically. I'm their worst headache . I'm someone who's heard every lie they've ever told
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Post by wlman on May 22, 2018 7:05:14 GMT 1
Are you Liam neeson?
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