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Post by franckfontaine on Apr 27, 2018 22:13:33 GMT 1
So, if Connah's Quay win the Cup Final, then the winner of Met vs Barry will play Cefn Druids for a europa cup slot.
Home advantage for Met in the first game, home advantage for Druids in the second.
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From tonight's game, I'd suggest the 'post Aizelwood' Carmarthen should be fine next season. Imagine if we could keep all the South Wales teams up and get another one up...
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Post by Counting Crows on Apr 28, 2018 11:38:31 GMT 1
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Post by john1970 on Apr 28, 2018 15:08:50 GMT 1
The FAW must have already spoken to specialist legal professionals before refusing Bangor their license, they must be convinced they are right to make that decision. I know the FAW are far from perfect but I find it hard to believe they took any joy in making this decision. There clearly must be an issue at Bangor otherwise they would not have refused them their license.
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Post by franckfontaine on Apr 28, 2018 15:59:20 GMT 1
I'm sure the FAW have spoken to their specialist advisers.
Question is, whether they'd changed the habit of a lifetime and actually taken the advice offered. From my slight knowledge of the FAW and legal affairs and appeals, they are willfully incompetent.
So I for one, will keep an open mind on how this might turn out. I'll also be hoping that Carmarthen don't get dicked around too much in this process. They'll have been told they are staying up, so they'll be budgeting and contracting accordingly.
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Post by derynglas on Apr 28, 2018 22:31:06 GMT 1
I dont know what the chances are of Bangor succeeding with this challenge. One thing for sure though the FAW wont be able to relegate Carmarthen if Bangor did succeed which seems unlikely but who knows. If it did happen I think theyd have to go with a 13 club league next season,clubs playing 3 times,36 games. I know thers been discussions about doing away with the split league format and just play each other 3 times with the current 12 club format. I have thought for years that the reduction from 18 to 12 was too drastic and that 14 would be the ideal number. The number of games 32 is too low.Youd have 38 or 39 with 14 clubs. The goegraphical imbalance we have seen is more likely with 12 clubs. The chance of relegation is too high resulting in clubs often going straight back down after 1 season. You wouldnt get much of a reduction in quality if any,but some more derbies and better crowds. I agree with the FAW policy of creating a chamionship north and south which will effectively be division 2 of the WPL when it happens after next season,and the improvements they are trying to bring about to the pyramid.
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Post by welshpremspy on Apr 29, 2018 10:50:05 GMT 1
The domestic licencing panel will have consulted with the FAW legal team throughout the appeal process, so they will be confident they have not acted improper.
Regardless, establishing that in the courts would be a drawn out process and something the FAW would want to avoid as it would create havoc on the league.
My hunch here is that this is purely an attempt by the Bangor City owners to deflect criticism directed at them towards the FAW, who are easy pickings due to their general unpopularity.
What impact does/could this have on the Welsh League?
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Post by john1970 on Apr 29, 2018 16:37:26 GMT 1
The domestic licencing panel will have consulted with the FAW legal team throughout the appeal process, so they will be confident they have not acted improper. Regardless, establishing that in the courts would be a drawn out process and something the FAW would want to avoid as it would create havoc on the league. My hunch here is that this is purely an attempt by the Bangor City owners to deflect criticism directed at them towards the FAW, who are easy pickings due to their general unpopularity. What impact does/could this have on the Welsh League? Bangor City have been in the top flight for many seasons and are the most supported team in the Welsh Premiership, losing a team like that who has history and proud supporters is tragic if you ask me. Your question has already been answered earlier in this thread by franckfontaine: "from the Welsh Prem website Promotion and Relegation Bangor City will be relegated alongside Prestatyn Town. This means that Carmarthen Town will be reprieved, and will play in the JD Welsh Premier League next Season. Caernarfon Town and Llanelli Town have both been promoted to the JD Welsh Premier League after their successful licence applications. European Places and Playoffs Connah’s Quay Nomads will be awarded an automatic UEFA Europa League place by virtue of their league position. Bala Town, Cefn Druids, Cardiff Met and Barry Town United have qualified for the European playoffs. The make-up of the playoff games now depends on the result of the JD Welsh Cup Final. Should Aberystwyth win the Final, then all four teams will play in the semi-finals on the weekend of the 12th May. Bala will host Barry, and whoever finishes fifth out of Druids and Met will host the other. Should Connah’s Quay win the Final, Bala Town will automatically qualify for the UEFA Europa League. Barry will then travel to the team finishing sixth in the table in the only semi-final, with the winner travelling to the fifth placed team in the Final on 20th May."
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Post by franckfontaine on Apr 29, 2018 17:25:03 GMT 1
Bangor are indeed a well supported team (by WPL standards). But (pedant alert!!!), not the best supported team in the league. This year, the most supported team was Barry. According to the Welsh Prem website, there were only two occasions where the Bangor home league attendance was higher than Barry's. Over the course of the season, the Barry turnstiles clicked over a thousand times more than Bangor's.
I would suggest, that's partly down to novelty value at Barry, versus league fatigue at Bangor. I'd expect Barry's attendances to level off next season.
But we are potentially getting back in to two bald men fighting over combs. Neither team managed a single 1,000 plus attendance. However, the record shows that Bangor's last season in the Prem they were knocked off their perch of 'best supported'.
The league does need more Bangors. There are teams that struggled in the dying weeks to get attendances in to triple figures.
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Post by franckfontaine on May 3, 2018 18:59:19 GMT 1
Well, that's now 4 days since Bangor said they had a solid case and were going to get their £30,000 worth of forensic accountants and sports law barristers to bang in some legals all over the FAW's arse.
I guess it'll be tomorrow. Always best to do this stuff on a Friday before a bank holiday.
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Post by franckfontaine on May 10, 2018 21:08:51 GMT 1
Well, perhaps the solid Bangor legal case will be delivered with a late dramatic flourish tomorrow?
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Post by undercover on May 16, 2018 14:05:20 GMT 1
Club statement from Bangor: there will be no legal action, they'll accept being kicked out of the league...
...but they are getting some new accountants for next season. Also, tomorrow's press conference to announce the new manager has been postponed 'due to unforseen circumstances'.
It can happen to anyone's team, this sort of shit.
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Post by john1970 on May 16, 2018 16:44:11 GMT 1
Club statement from Bangor: there will be no legal action, they'll accept being kicked out of the league... ...but they are getting some new accountants for next season. Also, tomorrow's press conference to announce the new manager has been postponed 'due to unforseen circumstances'. It can happen to anyone's team, this sort of shit. I thought you were joking www.dailypost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/confirmed-bangor-city-play-huws-14664035Really feel sorry for their supporters and players but not for the club officials as surly there must be more to it than "being the accountants fault" its easy to blame someone else
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Post by franckfontaine on May 20, 2018 10:52:11 GMT 1
Club statement from Bangor: there will be no legal action, they'll accept being kicked out of the league... ...but they are getting some new accountants for next season. Also, tomorrow's press conference to announce the new manager has been postponed 'due to unforseen circumstances'. It can happen to anyone's team, this sort of shit. I thought you were joking www.dailypost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/confirmed-bangor-city-play-huws-14664035Really feel sorry for their supporters and players but not for the club officials as surly there must be more to it than "being the accountants fault" its easy to blame someone else Oh yes, it's very real. They have owners that are 'famous' for getting hold of a club and wrecking it. The same people put Chester down the toilet. Nobody much questioned it whilst the league position improved, now the accounts accidentally showed weird goings on with the money, people are taking more of an interest in who got control of the club. Anyhoos, WPL last european spot play off this afternoon. Will the last of the european places go north or south... Fwiw, I thought that was a great WPL season just passed. Happy for Carmarthen to have survived the cut, their performances once they were without Aizelwood were truly good enough to stay in the league. Looking forward to next season, more of the same would be just excellent. On other matters more Welsh League, I see there's an effort to reform Pontypridd FC. Apparently it'll be a football club in Ponty, for Ponty, by the people of Ponty. Power to them, need more of that. Something a local crowd can get behind and do a bit more for a community than just be a football team that's chosen a convenient location.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 11:22:55 GMT 1
Oh yes, it's very real. They have owners that are 'famous' for getting hold of a club and wrecking it. The same people put Chester down the toilet. Nobody much questioned it whilst the league position improved, now the accounts accidentally showed weird goings on with the money, people are taking more of an interest in who got control of the club. Anyhoos, WPL last european spot play off this afternoon. Will the last of the european places go north or south... Fwiw, I thought that was a great WPL season just passed. Happy for Carmarthen to have survived the cut, their performances once they were without Aizelwood were truly good enough to stay in the league. Looking forward to next season, more of the same would be just excellent. On other matters more Welsh League, I see there's an effort to reform Pontypridd FC. Apparently it'll be a football club in Ponty, for Ponty, by the people of Ponty. Power to them, need more of that. Something a local crowd can get behind and do a bit more for a community than just be a football team that's chosen a convenient location. And we,ll make sure that it stays that way . 6/7 of us travelled down for our last ever game to watch Pontypridd Town yesterday.The behaviour of our ex club towards us has been nothing short of disgusting. And im lost for words at the actions of club officials and relatives etc towards us after yesterdays final whistle. As always the players did us proud and appreciated our support which is more than can be said for the club. Viva Pontypridd Fc
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Post by wlman on May 20, 2018 13:20:46 GMT 1
I'm sure they'll miss that keyboard warrior from ponty games.
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