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Post by rhonddaborn on Jun 1, 2018 18:00:57 GMT 1
That's quite a statement Mr Jones. Are you suggesting that FAW have ignored their own licensing regulations & colluded with a club to deliberately and corruptly give a Tier 2 licence? Doesn't the evidence from Bangor City etc suggest the FAW enforce regulations strictly and it is perhaps you, for reasons known only to you, that wish to spread untruths about a local rival?
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Post by huwjones on Jun 1, 2018 20:08:16 GMT 1
That's quite a statement Mr Jones. Are you suggesting that FAW have ignored their own licensing regulations & colluded with a club to deliberately and corruptly give a Tier 2 licence? Doesn't the evidence from Bangor City etc suggest the FAW enforce regulations strictly and it is perhaps you, for reasons known only to you, that wish to spread untruths about a local rival? RhonddaBorn no I wasn't inferring that at all,heaven forbid. I have the greatest respect in our governing body,and all they are trying to achieve to improve grassroots football. Wouldn't be involved in the game otherwise I did point out that I beleive at time of inspection the 250 seats necessary were in place,so no collusion was inferred. If any of my post is factually in correct,and you know different I would be more than happy to put my hand up and apologise..won't be the first time,but I am big enough,and ugly enough to apologise. My observations were based on a photograph circulating the past few weeks on social media,it unfortunately due to GDPR Regulations cannot be re-posted as included in the picture of an end of season team photograph are young children. Interested why do you think it was a local rival?,at no time did I mention the club or its location. I'm sorry for you if you have confused the first paragraph of the post with the second. The post was a light hearted attempt at humour,after our obviously poor season, Upton Park mentioned the "bulldog spirit" award,that's why I mentioned Ton Pentre .. in the first paragraph. Nice to have contribution from new posters,well not quite new ,It's been a while since your first post,welcome back. Although I personally do find posts carry more authenticity if the posts are under the real name of the person , but hey each to their own anonymity eh The human mind is a wonderfull vortex of emotion and thoughts and as my favourite Philosopher Freiderich Nietzsche once said: "All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth" |
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Post by rhonddaborn on Jun 1, 2018 20:10:24 GMT 1
Well what an intiresting day. Following Mr Jones's story of the disappearing seats I got hold of a family member who still lives up near Ton. He used words like wolf in sheeps clothing. Told me he'd heard one local builder took so long to quote and then was so high it felt like it was deliberate plan to waste time and see club miss deadline. Volunteers did loads to finish ALL the Tier2 requirements before passing an independent inspection at the first go. I definitely sniff an agenda in your message now
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 16:49:24 GMT 1
Surely w.l club of the year is Pontypridd town for services above and beyond the call of duty to the town of Pontypridd
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Post by starisborn on Jul 13, 2018 13:21:01 GMT 1
Just seen that comment from the so called ITK Ammanford fan trading under the disguise of welshleaguefan4 on ground criteria to play in Div One next season. Your football knowledge sir of criteria is like the crude level who sank to in the final words of your post....cheap + tacky. Before you come on here get your facts right + make your comments without stooping to a gutter level. Understand? Now go + play with the traffic in B Ferry, if you dodge it you might see Ammanford there next season. Been quite patient to reply to this ludacris comment.....You and John1970 are both incorrect with your lack of knowledge on the subject. As the other Ammanford supporter stated earlier in the thread, they will be using their own ground when the stand is built. Fact. You are a bit of an embarrassment to this forum if i'm honest. |
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Post by starisborn on Jul 14, 2018 20:50:09 GMT 1
My understanding is that the ground share has to be for the home season and can't be for a few games. So I think it will be BF for longer than you think. Exactly my understanding of the agreement aswell. Its ironic that someone slags another person off for not knowing what they are talking about and come up with a complete load of b*****ks themselves. The part about getting the stand done during the Summer may be correct, but grounds have to be compliant by April 30th before the new season begins. Ammanfords promotion was only allowed due to the fact that they are ground sharing at a ground where the tier 2 license was granted to on inspection April just gone.You cannot get your ground compliant during the summer then expect to play from there. Sorry welshleaguefan4 it is you who is totally misinformed of the situation. Ammanford DO NOT have a Tier 2 license to play from their ground during season 2018/2019. I bet you feel a little embarrassed now giving Upton the large one and hurling abuse at him, when in fact it is you who appears to not know the FACTS. If it makes you feel better I personally think the rules stink. As soon as a club gets their ground criteria compliant they should be allowed to use it, no matter when it becomes compliant. Why make village supporters travel well out of the way, the powers to be should be promoting football in rural areas. They expect stands to be built during the winter/early Spring when the ground is soft and heavy plant equipment cant be used. It makes sense for these structures to be built during the summer when there are no games and the ground is harder making construction or installation easier. Another quick thought on the matter, will the ground at BF be able to handle double the amount of matches especially with our ever increasing wet winters? I hope the groundsmen at BF are top notch as they will be tested this Season. |
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Post by cefnogwr on Jul 14, 2018 21:21:12 GMT 1
I will admit to not not knowing what criteria was / is set for tier2 licence (who does ?)
However, I do note than from Jan 2019 onwards both Ammanford and BFL have home fixtures, same date / same time. So WL fixture sec seems under impression Ammanford not playing home fixtures at BFL, from Jan 2019. Hope opposition will know by then, which ground to attend.
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Post by huwjones on Jul 16, 2018 2:15:57 GMT 1
what I find strange is that the deadline for tier 2 inspection was april 30th, Cwmamman Utd did all their work and were awarded a licence..fine, as did LLantwit I believe Ammanfords licence was granted as they stated BFL was going to be their home ground, similar Cwmbran Celtic at Goytre, now going by whats said re fixtures are Ammanford going to be awarded a Teir2 licence if they complete the work after the start of the season..if so and this is not a slight on them..its whoever awards the licence then thats plain wrong.If Ammanford didnt do the work by the deadline of April 30th like many clubs did, and now are doing it, their home ground should be BFL for the entire season, same with Celtic at Goytre...its not the same playing field for all otherwise.
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Post by cefnogwr on Jul 16, 2018 8:05:28 GMT 1
If true Cwmbran Celtic and Ammanford are returning home during season (are their grounds to be re-inspected) , seems inconsistent decision making with 1 club refused tier2 despite producing timescale and plans for completion of tier2 work by start of season, they were left with impression if not complete by April, ground share for whole season was required, there would be no re-inspection before end of 2018/19 season.
Then there is the question mark of at least 3 other teams having work done after tier2 licence granted are they to be re-inspected to ensure the work complies with tier2 criteria. (was there "dark arts" at work around Leckwith, was the pitch to small as rumoured) re-layed and extended after April 18 ?
No blame on any club (get away with what you can ) just seems licensing process has been a bit of a "dogs dinner" and left a bitter taste to some clubs
Perhaps you can get answers at next meeting Huw, congrats on election
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Post by cefnogwr on Jul 17, 2018 11:02:40 GMT 1
A Huw Jones post May 18
All very confusing Fester .
To be promoted sides were told you need a minimum of 100 seats, then by april 2019 250 seats.
Spoke to Cwmamman Sec Alun and he said they were putting in 100 seats, they have been awarded the liscence,now wether they put in 250 seats I dont know.
We have 100 seats Pontypridd could have applied to play on ours ,whilst they develope somewhere,where I dont know.
I do beleive to obtain the tier2 you had inform the Faw by April 30 where you would play
Im not the brightest, but not the dullest.I havnt got a scobby do whats going happen.
Huw,
Do you know if Cwmamman got tier2 with only 100 seats, or have they actually now got 250
From matches postponed at Cwmamman over recent years, seems pitch should have been main priority for investment.
I do admit to being annoyed at seeing same teams cancel numerous home games during mid week, with full strength squad. I believe a deduction of 1 point for every home game played during season "extension period" should be imposed.
That should encourage teams to invest in pitch improvement.
Views would be appreciated.
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Post by unclefester on Jul 17, 2018 11:07:44 GMT 1
It doesn’t help when teams refuse midweek fixtures during the season, only then to pile on the midweek fixtures at the end, usually after they have signed a few journeymen on £££ to stay up.
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Post by cefnogwr on Jul 17, 2018 11:50:55 GMT 1
SORRY LAST PARA OF ABOVE POST SEEMS TO HAVE MISSED A SENTENCE??
From matches postponed at Cwmamman over recent years, seems pitch should have been main priority for investment.
I do admit to being annoyed at seeing same teams cancel numerous home games during official season, then arrange home mid week fixtures in season "extension". These home teams in my view get an unfair advantage, with mid-table teams possibly reducing spend, having no incentive to take a full strength squad for an away fixture end of season. I believe a deduction of 1 point for every home game played during season "extension period" should be imposed.
That should encourage teams to invest in pitch improvement.
Views would be appreciated.
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Post by wlman on Jul 17, 2018 13:19:17 GMT 1
It doesn’t help when teams refuse midweek fixtures during the season, only then to pile on the midweek fixtures at the end, usually after they have signed a few journeymen on £££ to stay up. Agree! Why is there only a game per week at the start of season. We all know dec/jan/Feb is a no no with games. Get them in no so there isn't 3 a week! League should encourage /enforce this is neccessary |
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Post by huwjones on Jul 17, 2018 16:58:20 GMT 1
A Huw Jones post May 18 All very confusing Fester . To be promoted sides were told you need a minimum of 100 seats, then by april 2019 250 seats. Spoke to Cwmamman Sec Alun and he said they were putting in 100 seats, they have been awarded the liscence,now wether they put in 250 seats I dont know. We have 100 seats Pontypridd could have applied to play on ours ,whilst they develope somewhere,where I dont know. I do beleive to obtain the tier2 you had inform the Faw by April 30 where you would play Im not the brightest, but not the dullest.I havnt got a scobby do whats going happen. Huw, Do you know if Cwmamman got tier2 with only 100 seats, or have they actually now got 250 From matches postponed at Cwmamman over recent years, seems pitch should have been main priority for investment. I do admit to being annoyed at seeing same teams cancel numerous home games during mid week, with full strength squad. I believe a deduction of 1 point for every home game played during season "extension period" should be imposed. That should encourage teams to invest in pitch improvement. Views would be appreciated. Cwmamman Utd only needed 100 seats as a promoted side to achieve Tier2 The Tier 2 regs for promoted teams from Div 2 into Div 1, was you had to have a min of 100 seats by start season 2018/19. By end of season 2018/19 , april 30th I believe you must have 250. If not you face relegation at end of season 18/19. I understand that the 3 promoted sides will be eligable for a WGI grant to increase from 100-250 seats during season 18/19 So teams who now might achieve tier3 ready for season 2019/20, might face relegation if a team who were promoted last season 17/18, do not achieve the tier2 licence ,250 seats by end 18/19. |
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Post by cefnogwr on Jul 17, 2018 18:26:05 GMT 1
Thanks Huw, so that criteria includes not just clubs promoted this season, but previous season as well. With poss implications as you state for next season, this licensing procedure seems to have grown "legs".
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