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Post by majorproblems on Mar 26, 2018 19:00:18 GMT 1
We got handed Landfil lane on a plate to be fair, the council also chucked in 35,000 litres of hoffmeisterpiss as part of the deal.
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Post by franckfontaine on Mar 26, 2018 19:47:22 GMT 1
Not criticising Barry I grew up watching football there and even played for them. I was commenting on the criticism of TNS who seem to be an easy target because one person has lumped in some money. Barry had a good side in the eighties and I remember epic battles with Merthyr and the game with Reading. All this was funded by one person with gates of a few hundred. However, you can't argue that Jenner Park is A great facility that they haven't had to pay for. And no I am not a committee member just someone who watches. I also grew up watching them, and once played against them. I was a steward at that Reading game. But all that is ancient history. I don't think you can judge any club in 2018 on how they were run in 1984. I think my criticism of 'others' was limited to the fact they've elected to be based in england. I've got no gripe with their ownership model, I don't know where you got that from? You read between the lines and got a 7 by adding a couple of 2's. My point over the course of a couple of posts was the nature of a league where the main team is based 'away' and doesn't appear to have any roots. They've had a decade to build something and other than building a trophy machine, I'd suggest they've not done that much for Welsh football. I've also pointed out that the total crowd attending 6 games on a sunny weekend free of rugby internationals or christmas shopping or holiday travels etc... was 1200. That one team managed a crowd of 300 or so where another managed a crowd just over 100 isn't a pop at the the new chester saints, so much as a reflection on where this whole thing is heading. I'd suggest that with Swansea Uni potentially following Cardiff Met up the pyramid, then we'll have a little cluster of well funded but unloved teams blocking the top of the league. Let's see the crowd at a Barry vs Llanelli opening day game, or a Bangor vs Caernarfon cup final. Proper teams. That you think Barry have a free pass, suggests *****changed due to looking overly aggressive!****. In a nice way.  |
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Post by jamesy on Mar 27, 2018 15:48:41 GMT 1
Blocking the top of the league? Proper teams?
Sure, let's have a pyramid system based on potential support and do away with the outdated notion of 3 points for a win.
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Post by franckfontaine on Mar 27, 2018 20:24:49 GMT 1
Blocking the top of the league? Proper teams? Sure, let's have a pyramid system based on potential support and do away with the outdated notion of 3 points for a win. Come on, you know I'm right!  Admittedly, crowds of 500 versus crowds of 200 is a bit like two bald guys squabbling over a comb. But I'm just kinda traditional and I don't like teams with words like GAP or Airbus in their name. I don't like clubs that relocate and rename the franchise. I don't like the idea of Uni's with no real roots being as good as it gets. Maybe not everyone's opinion. My best case scenario would be a crowd of a few thousand (not too many, I still want it to feel personal) watching Barry beat Bangor in a final, watching Caernarfon scrap it out against Llanelli and so on. The 'festive' game against the Uni team this year was, erm, 'flat'. Just like it used to be against Inter CableTel. Perhaps if you all learnt a song or something? It's not like you'd need to make an awful lot of photocopies. Aberystwyth had more away support at Jenner than the Uni did. And they had a funny banner. And you could hear them. |
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Post by fairplay on Mar 27, 2018 22:17:31 GMT 1
Good heavens I have never heard anybody so miserable when talking about football. Maybe you might like to have the game based on attendances ie the Welsh Premier League would only accept clubs with average home attendance of 500. Remove all the honours that TNS have won since they renamed their club from Llansantffraid. Many clubs in Wales have survived by merging together and for a while the word flexibility has been the only way some clubs have survived. InterCableTel games against Celtic and winning the Welsh Cup provided supporters, players and Management with wonderful memories. The other thing to remember is that Aberystwyth is a footballing area like many North Wales clubs and not affected by rugby clubs as many of the clubs in South Wales are.An interesting topic however Franckontaine. As regards the reference to bald guys I have now decided to get a 'syrup of figs'.
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Post by jamesy on Mar 27, 2018 23:00:33 GMT 1
Surely then the proper clubs with more money coming through the gates should trounce these University imposters? Unfortunately the game is played on the pitch and not based on atmosphere, attendance figures or quality of programme (admittedly Barry’s is the best in the WPL).
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Post by franckfontaine on Mar 27, 2018 23:03:42 GMT 1
Good heavens I have never heard anybody so miserable when talking about football. Maybe you might like to have the game based on attendances ie the Welsh Premier League would only accept clubs with average home attendance of 500. Remove all the honours that TNS have won since they renamed their club from Llansantffraid. Many clubs in Wales have survived by merging together and for a while the word flexibility has been the only way some clubs have survived. InterCableTel games against Celtic and winning the Welsh Cup provided supporters, players and Management with wonderful memories. The other thing to remember is that Aberystwyth is a footballing area like many North Wales clubs and not affected by rugby clubs as many of the clubs in South Wales are.An interesting topic however Franckontaine. As regards the reference to bald guys I have now decided to get a 'syrup of figs'. you need to get out more if that's as miserable as you've heard! I don't think I've suggested changing criteria, I've just said I'd like to see proper teams with community roots get big crowds and head up the league ahead of franchises. Hey, if that's a bad thing to wish for, I don't know what to say. steady on, let's just start by getting Totally Relocatable Franchise to play in Wales. no problem with mergers, it's giving clubs product names I find a bit sad I was at the away leg of Celtic vs InterCableTel, there were InterCableTel staff there, holding little CableTel balloons their boss had told them all to inflate, but absolutely no 'supporters'. I'm not sure we can blame the egg chasers for our universally low attendances. Somebody interested in rugby is likely having trouble remembering to both blink and breathe, they're never going to remember whether it's 2:30 or 3:00 kick off at Taffs Well this month. I think we can also blame a lack of publicity. A poor image of the FAW at grass roots level. Sky TV. Cardiff, Swansea, Newport, Merthyr. English Prem games being on our doorstep. Drizzle. |
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Post by jamesy on Mar 27, 2018 23:11:36 GMT 1
You make some valid points especially with regard to the rugby fans and the way the WPL is marketed.
I’m curious as to when a club like Cardiff Met would be accepted as a ‘proper’ club though?
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Post by franckfontaine on Mar 27, 2018 23:27:19 GMT 1
You make some valid points especially with regard to the rugby fans and the way the WPL is marketed. I’m curious as to when a club like Cardiff Met would be accepted as a ‘proper’ club though? I guess, when they get a few more people like you around the place. Let me put it this way. If the Uni decided to drop out of football and concentrate on cheerleading or pocket billiards instead. Would there be a community lead campaign to keep it all going? Would the local paper receive letters? If they changed the club badge to something a bit crap, would there be a local uprising and alternative merch? Probably just me being old fashioned and under informed. |
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Post by fairplay on Mar 28, 2018 0:23:51 GMT 1
Did Caerleon fc which was a well established WFL club have any campaign when they left the league last season ? Cardiff Met had been members of the WFL for over 40 years as UWIC and previously as South Glamorgan Institute of Higher Education. Like all Universities they have a large student community which can total thousands and are excellent representatives of South Wales football in the Welsh Premier League.
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Post by majormoments on Mar 28, 2018 8:29:02 GMT 1
How many do Barry get at a home game and how many of them actually pay?
What is the population of Barry?
Looking at your posts it seems that Barry is the heartbeat of the community. Not sure myself
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Post by cyncoedslumdog on Mar 28, 2018 11:22:08 GMT 1
[LI was at the away leg of Celtic vs InterCableTel, there were InterCableTel staff there, holding little CableTel balloons their boss had told them all to inflate, but absolutely no 'supporters'.
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As someone who was on the staff of Inter CableTel I can confirm that statement is nonsense. We had a decent contingent of fans there who travelled up by coach and car who the police wanted to take straight into the ground 'under guard'. Fortunately we got wind of this and they came into Glasgow by a different route and spent pre-match in the Celtic Supporters Club. As for the black balloons being waved by Inter CableTel staff, that's even bigger nonsense. I think there may have been local CableTel employees there who turned the evening into a party but I think they were in a different part of the ground.
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Post by jimbo on Mar 28, 2018 13:40:11 GMT 1
Barry has the highest attendances in the WPL. Averaging 550 a game i believe
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Post by majormoments on Mar 28, 2018 14:06:15 GMT 1
Barry has the highest attendances in the WPL. Averaging 550 a game i believe And how many pay. Aren't a lot kids from the junior section? 500+ is a decent number but given the size of the town and it being the first season back it's not that great. |
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Post by jimbo on Mar 28, 2018 14:19:16 GMT 1
Barry has the highest attendances in the WPL. Averaging 550 a game i believe And how many pay. Aren't a lot kids from the junior section? 500+ is a decent number but given the size of the town and it being the first season back it's not that great.
With our unique geographical position being 8 miles from Cardiff we are doing very well I think. No idea on the kids front I believe the majority pay
Opening games vs Aberystwyth and TNS were both 900+ in terms of attendances. It has tailed off a bit since then due to indifferent results in the first phase but we are doing well now and hopefully things should pick up again.
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