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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 22:34:10 GMT 1
As expected they have bit the dust which is very sad indeed. The high court officially wound the business up.
Our former player Gary Lloyd is the heart & soul of Llanelli and his dad before him but now the club has gone. Such a shame.
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Post by dannyg on Apr 23, 2013 7:11:05 GMT 1
Yet another club trying to "live the dream". Just goes to show that there is absolutely no incentive to get promoted into the Welsh Premier. Something seriously needs to be done to improve the health of Welsh football before more clubs go to the wall.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 9:27:13 GMT 1
The bottom line is that 200 paying supporters every fortnight does not correlate with a club being a professional outfit. The gate money just about covers the team coach travel to the next away game so where the hell the chairman thought he,d find wages is a mystery.
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Post by westsideblue on Apr 24, 2013 17:21:21 GMT 1
Reformed Reds would be forced to drop four tiers
Published on Wednesday, 24 April 2013 08:06
Bob Jeffrey
Llanelli manager Bob Jeffrey wants to keep football alive in Llanelli.
IF Llanelli are allowed to reform after being wound-up in London's High Court on Monday, they will have to start again from the fourth tier of Welsh domestic football.
The financially-troubled club was put out of business over a £21,000 debt to HMRC, which was only a part of total liabilities of around £140,000.
Llanelli had already been refused a licence to play in the Welsh Premier League next season and, even if they were to form a new club over the summer, they would have to begin in the depths of MacWhirter Welsh League Division Three.
But not even that place is guaranteed, as the FAW will have to approve the newly-founded club before it can be entered into the Welsh league pyramid.
Instead of high-profile European ties against the likes of Motherwell and Dinamo Tbilisi, the Reds will be facing the likes of Risca United, Tredegar Town and Abertillery Bluebirds.
There were faint hopes Llanelli would have been allowed to enter Division One, but the Welsh Football League has ruled out such a scenario.
"As far as we are concerned, there is no process for clubs to follow other than the current promotion and relegation structure we use," the league's secretary Ken Tucker told the Llanelli Star.
"We would love to see Llanelli, such a historic club, survive but we cannot just put them straight into our top division.
"It is up to the FAW whether Llanelli are allowed back in the Welsh League and, if they are, they would have to start in Division Three.
"Llanelli's big problem is getting let into the league by the FAW. If that's the case, they won't be any higher than Division Three."
If a reformed Llanelli side do enter the Welsh Football League at its lowest level, club legend Wyndham Evans believes the Reds could rise again with new-found strength.
"It was very sad to see Llanelli wound up," said the former Reds player and manager.
"For a club with more than 100 years of history, it's a terrible shame that financial issues should force the club out of business.
"Lessons clearly haven't been learnt from when Neath were wound up last season, and the Welsh Premier League is losing its credibility.
"The best — and the only — way forward for Llanelli is to follow the lead of Swansea, Portsmouth and others and to get the fans on board to help run the club.
"If they have to start from the bottom of the Welsh League, at least they'll have local players who will be proud to play, a local team who will attract bigger crowds and appeal to the town."
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Post by icehockeyhair on Apr 24, 2013 22:36:10 GMT 1
"As far as we are concerned, there is no process for clubs to follow other than the current promotion and relegation structure we use," the league's secretary Ken Tucker told the Llanelli Star.
If this is true, how come Llanelli can go into the 3rd division even? Surely Mr Tucker's statement is saying that you can only go into the Welsh League either by relegation from Welsh Prem or by promotion from one of the feeder leagues?
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Post by dannyg on Apr 25, 2013 6:22:18 GMT 1
This coming from the league who at the Special AGM told member clubs that 12 clubs had failed the ground criteria, of which 6 had failed it badly. Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago and, miraculously, ALL clubs had satisfied the ground criteria. I take anything they announce with a pinch of salt!
Believe me, if a new club is formed out of the ashes of Llanelli then I fully expect them to start in Welsh League Division 3!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 9:41:36 GMT 1
If a newly formed team are allowed straight into the welsh league 3rd division it makes a mockery of the leagues below the welsh league. Surely this means I can set up a team called for instance "FC Old Duffers Without A Clue United" and apply successfully to go into the league!!
The other thing is that Llanelli Council are owed a huge some of money for rent at Stebo so if they allowed a newly formed team to play there as a direct replacement for the bust club they would be irresponsible and doing the tax payer a disservice !!
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Post by scril on Apr 25, 2013 22:24:03 GMT 1
I hear that the merger of Bridgend and Bryntirion has been sanctioned by FAW.What happens now, this means an alteration in Div 1, only two teams to
go down??
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Post by Counting Crows on Apr 26, 2013 14:27:55 GMT 1
This could be convenient. A merger creates a vacancy in D3 (one less relegated team from D1 and D2). A reformed Llanelli to fill it?
Hardly fair, as a new team should start at the bottom, but stranger things have happened...
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Post by KingsleyLloyd on Apr 28, 2013 23:20:09 GMT 1
Am I missing something here?? my club's been going for over 100 years and in the past 10 years or so tried to gain Welsh League entry after winning our respective feeder league several times.
So now, out of the ashes of a former Welsh Prem club that have sadly gone bust somebody could potentially form a brand new entity that may be able to play their games at Stebonheath Park and go straight into Welsh League Division 3 because there is a link with a club that are officially no longer in existence???
Does that not go against the whole constitution of the pyramid and all the aspiring long exsiting clubs that are in the rat race ?!?!?
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Post by huwjones on Apr 28, 2013 23:35:16 GMT 1
my understanding Ken Tucker misquoted only way Llanelli in Welsh Lge next year was if they had been relegated not wound up, will start if at all in local league, but very much a Neath scenario .
Lot sympathy with fans ,local players but not those running club.
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Post by KingsleyLloyd on Apr 28, 2013 23:42:00 GMT 1
if a team get relegated from the top echelon of Welsh football then they surely go down to the next level, ie Welsh League Div 1, not the 3rd division.
Thats how the pyramid works upwards so surely vice versa!!
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Post by dannyg on Apr 29, 2013 6:40:25 GMT 1
Unfortunately, the original Llanelli as a football club has ceased to exist, they are no more, they have joined the choir invisible, they have shuffled off their mortal coil!
This phoenix club, if it comes off, should surely start at county level and work their way back up like Newport County and Merthyr in the English pyramid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2013 9:27:43 GMT 1
Isn't it the same scenario as Glasgow Rangers (excuse my ignorance if not)?
They dropped to Scottish Div 3 and not too much fuss was made about it (in fact, "New Co" were kicking of because they weren't allowed straight back into the SPL).
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Post by Counting Crows on Apr 29, 2013 22:53:14 GMT 1
The difference with Rangers is that there is no pyramid system below the SFL so technically Rangers did go to the bottom. Though arguably the SFL should have invited applications for the "spare" place in D3 like they did when Gretna went pop.
A reformed Llanelli could potentially draw good crowds, relatively speaking, and would be a good addition to the league. But would it be fair on clubs already in the pyramid? I think not.
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