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Post by majormoments on Jun 2, 2018 15:19:02 GMT 1
What has Ton Pentre' disastrous season led to.
Well they avoided relegation and the cherry on the cake the only South Wales team invited to the EPL cup.
This from a club who have said they wouldn't go in the wpl again due to the costs.
Must have friends in high places I guess.
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Post by Captain sensible on Jun 2, 2018 17:21:54 GMT 1
C'mon mr moment. Look at the history of the club. Yes, they have had a bad season, but surely a club who has done so much for the football community deserves absolute respect. TPs contribution to the game in the Rhondda is beyond reproach. Good thread tho to get a discussion going.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 19:55:08 GMT 1
An absolute disgrace. What Ton have done in years gone by has nothing to do with how they should be treated or looked upon by FAW or WPL bigwigs. They’re ground is a rusty nail, they have flopped on the pitch and yet they land prize games against WPL teams ?? The FAW have made it clear that Welsh football is all about the future and improvement all around the game. The Bulldogs (or fluffy pussycats as they should now be called) attitude towards promotion is for all to see so theoretically they are clogging up or obstructing the path of ambitious clubs. WL clubs could make decent income from these cup games so why not award the wild card to a forward thinking club who would utilise the income into improving their club. Pathetic and typical of the extreme joke of an organisation that governs our game. Maybe next season they can award the wild card to Ely Rangers ? Have I fallen asleep for a few months and woken up on 1st April 2019 ? C'mon mr moment. Look at the history of the club. Yes, they have had a bad season, but surely a club who has done so much for the football community deserves absolute respect. TPs contribution to the game in the Rhondda is beyond reproach. Good thread tho to get a discussion going. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 1:13:15 GMT 1
I got to agree with vogdog on this Ton Pentre joke it stinks. For years they were playing in the English pyramid and though they had some great success when they came in the Welsh League they have done jack shit for years and are well known for being anti WPL . The past has got nothing to do with the present. They finished rock bottom of the division and won just one game out of 30 and had 86 goals hammered past them. At the other end of the field they couldn’t even muster up an average of a goal per game. Their average based on the goals for and against is a 3-1 defeat in all 30 games. They lost 22 out of their 30 games for gods sake!!!! . They got knocked out of the Welsh Cup by a mediocre 3rd division club and as a result of severe abject failure are now rewarded with a plum place in the WPL cup. It could only happen under the noses of the FAW. One of the head honchos in the FAW Old Folks Home needs to be woken up to explain the rationale behind this sick joke. Does FAW stand for Foolish Ancient Wallies ?? If I was part of TonPentre I’d be embarrassed by this decision that has rewarded failure.
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Post by john1970 on Jun 4, 2018 8:16:23 GMT 1
Its who you know in this terribly organised football nation governed by the FAW.
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Post by welshboi on Jun 4, 2018 8:39:38 GMT 1
Got to agree, clubs like penydarren fc have done more for welsh football last season than Ton have in the last 10. It is a 'wild card after all'.
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Post by unclefester on Jun 4, 2018 9:12:47 GMT 1
That’s always assuming that Penydarren (to use your example) have applied to play in the competition. Clubs have to apply for a wildcard place and there are criteria for entry, it’s not a random thing.
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Post by welshboi on Jun 4, 2018 9:48:35 GMT 1
That’s always assuming that Penydarren (to use your example) have applied to play in the competition. Clubs have to apply for a wildcard place and there are criteria for entry, it’s not a random thing. That was only an example |
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Post by rhonddaborn on Jun 4, 2018 9:51:02 GMT 1
the5thofficial - get your facts straight. Ton Pentre have never played in the English pyramid. They have, however, won the Welsh League a record 13 times. Majormoments - 'Wouldn't go in the WPL due to costs?' Maybe that was true thirteen years ago when they last won the division and had the choice. I'd feel confident that many of the liquidated WPL clubs wish they'd followed similar fiscal rigour. I guess you'd have to ask Ebbw Vale Town, Barry Town, Conwy Borough, Cemaes Bay, Cwmbran Town, Llanelli etc (except none of those clubs exist in the same form any more do they?). Good luck to all the resurrected phoenix clubs, and those still struggling with a WPL hangover, but I think it's safe to say that the road to the WPL wasn't always paved in gold. I do note that the current board of TP have published a 5 year strategic plan that includes a return to the WPL. Facts though - they're not necessary in these enlightened days are they? I used to enjoy popping into this forum intermittently to catch up on the goings-on back home but it's simply just an ill-informed echo chamber. As you were
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Post by unclefester on Jun 4, 2018 10:09:17 GMT 1
That’s always assuming that Penydarren (to use your example) have applied to play in the competition. Clubs have to apply for a wildcard place and there are criteria for entry, it’s not a random thing. That was only an example Ok, so out of all the clubs who applied to play in the cup, which ones, in your opinion, were more deserving of a wildcard place ? |
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Post by scoutman on Jun 4, 2018 10:40:04 GMT 1
It is my belief that clubs are invited to participate in this cup competition. One of the criteria being grounds must have floodlights. Abergavenny Town were invited a few seasons ago to take part based on their success in the FAW Trophy the previous season.
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Post by unclefester on Jun 4, 2018 11:42:44 GMT 1
It is my belief that clubs are invited to participate in this cup competition. One of the criteria being grounds must have floodlights. Abergavenny Town were invited a few seasons ago to take part based on their success in the FAW Trophy the previous season. You definitely have to apply. Floodlights are indeed a requirement, and I recall a few seasons ago you had to justify why your inclusion would benefit the competition (or words to that effect). |
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Post by majormoments on Jun 4, 2018 12:33:13 GMT 1
the5thofficial - get your facts straight. Ton Pentre have never played in the English pyramid. They have, however, won the Welsh League a record 13 times. Majormoments - 'Wouldn't go in the WPL due to costs?' Maybe that was true thirteen years ago when they last won the division and had the choice. I'd feel confident that many of the liquidated WPL clubs wish they'd followed similar fiscal rigour. I guess you'd have to ask Ebbw Vale Town, Barry Town, Conwy Borough, Cemaes Bay, Cwmbran Town, Llanelli etc (except none of those clubs exist in the same form any more do they?). Good luck to all the resurrected phoenix clubs, and those still struggling with a WPL hangover, but I think it's safe to say that the road to the WPL wasn't always paved in gold. I do note that the current board of TP have published a 5 year strategic plan that includes a return to the WPL. Facts though - they're not necessary in these enlightened days are they? I used to enjoy popping into this forum intermittently to catch up on the goings-on back home but it's simply just an ill-informed echo chamber. As you were I have no problems with Ton Pentre'. However, finishing bottom of the league should not bring a reward like this. I think staying up on criteria grounds was more than enough. As for going to the wpl there may have been a change of heart and I hope so as the wpl would benefit by having a Rhondda based team in it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 12:44:46 GMT 1
The letter from Ton Pentre asking to be included in the WPL cup and why their inclusion would benefit the competition.
Dear Gwyn
We at Ton Pentre would like to enter the cup because we won loads of trophies in another millennium, we appeared on match of the day 32 years ago and we will offer excellent target practice and boost the confidence of all opposition strikers ten fold. We are a strong team which was proved in the past season when we managed to hold the entire 15 other clubs in the division above us.
Yours in sport
A. Mate
(ps see you down the Lodge on Saturday night as usual butt)
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Post by nicky on Jun 4, 2018 15:26:36 GMT 1
The application process is usually quite transparent, and usually the FAW (nearer the tournament actually starting) release a statement alluding to why the wildcard team's applications were accepted. So I'd expect that to pop up around season-start time in July/August.
From my previous involvement with a WL club, I can tell you that the application process isn't exactly massively publicised, it's something you'd only really notice if you were a regular on the WPL website!
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