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Post by Gareth Evs on Sept 25, 2011 20:47:58 GMT 1
Well, what a joke, the club are now looking for fundraising, probably to pay the extortionate wages at the club!! ;D It beggars belief that the club can carry on paying the amount they are.. The 2 new "High Profile" managers currently picking up £200 in all accounts, how true this is we dont know, officials will not answer the questions you put to them on their forum. they have also gone down the route of "registration" to post on their forum... Last season the board got rid of a good manager/coach because 1 of the committees lads wasnt being picked  then the 2 lads palmer/collins took over and did an overwhelming job to keep them up with literally no money at all. Many others would have jumped ship. Then in the close season somehow got rid of them, and got the "High Profile" football players in. I will post here instead now, it is also rumoured that they are now charging the teams playing from their ground, Which only 1 can assume that this probably goes towards wages?? I have now given up watching the team, as there is now only 1 local lad involved, whereas last going off last season there were more and more local boys interested. So who would want to help aberaman fundraise to pay their under achieving side, and fill the pockets of the board... Bottom 3 finish in my opinion |
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Post by guest222 on Sept 26, 2011 8:10:28 GMT 1
Dave Morgan back on the committee and Gareth Morgan joining the club today.
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Post by BOB on Sept 26, 2011 10:22:37 GMT 1
frying pan into fire |
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Post by redmogsy on Sept 27, 2011 19:17:47 GMT 1
Lets not forget that Dai Morgan was behind Aberaman winning division 1 3 seasons ago, Then Gareth was his assistant.. Suppose they are going back to the tried and tested but what is going to happen with the current management committee |
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Post by poly esther on Sept 27, 2011 22:04:45 GMT 1
once again people jumping to conclusions on here, and its usually 'know it all' redmogsy. for the record dai is on the commite nothing else (i dont think its appropriate another clubs managment staff comeing on here questioning the future of other clubs management). maybe you should worry about your own club, and the fact you need to start scoreing goals before u find yourself in another dogfight at the wrong end of the div 1 table.
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Post by bill yardley on Sept 27, 2011 22:24:50 GMT 1
dont pay players.
I cant understand why anyone gets payed. Where do these clubs get the money back from? whats the point? are you not better off developing local yougsters to play for your club?
Bring this manager in,sack that one etc,etc why not as a club get one of the local lads and pay for him to be a better coach ? A BETTER INVESTMENT SURELY!
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Post by Hard Cheese on Sept 28, 2011 9:32:56 GMT 1
In reply to Bill Yardley...
No offense intended but I do not think you are very familiar with the higher divisions of welsh football....
Firstly, the point of paying players is for the club to try to win things, in particular for example, the welsh cup which has a significanrt monetary award for each win, especially if you get to the Final. Additionally, for those clubs with aspirations to get to the welsh premier - again there is significant reward here with the FAW throwing alot more money at the clubs within this league than outside, added to the chance of europe where again there is big money.
Secondly, very few clubs have good enough youth systems in place to rely on these young players and compete with the others - some can do it but for most welsh clubs as with most in the world, success in football is needed quickly and not many will build a 10 year programme.
Finally, if you were to make it Amateur as such, you will always get one (or more) clubs continue to pay players in search of glory as seem with treorchy rugby club going back a few years (for those of you who know about welsh rugby you will understand the comparison).
So bill, whilst what you say has some foundation in an ideal scenario, it truly is a non-starter at this moment in time. And as for Dai being back there - I feel he does not want to see the ship he built -sink. He put alot into that club and it desperately needs steadying, and IMPO it would be a shame to see a club with such a good setup going down from division 1. But on the flip side, aberaman are a prime example of what happens when you start paying to bring in the big timers - you will never get the local boys back to how it was before they were 'replaced'
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Post by Stavros on Sept 28, 2011 13:08:39 GMT 1
Try the EMF it worked for us!!!!!!
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Post by Bill Yardley on Sept 28, 2011 13:25:04 GMT 1
Hard cheese. how much money do you get for winning the welsh cup? and how many times have you won it? how many times have you been into europe as a club and did you make more than you spent on your journey? how much on average do the players get per game? etc,etc
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Post by Joe Rowley on Sept 28, 2011 13:46:29 GMT 1
With response to bill yardley, didn't Aberaman have a local lad in after christmas??? with Greg Palmer as his assistant/coach/player. Correct me if i am wrong didnt they have quite a big squad before they took over? then as it happens all players leave and the crap hits the fan.
I remember playing against them mid week, and in all fairness they had a squad with great camaraderie, and played some great football. They did have a few batterings, but surely this was due to team rebuilding. Didnt the local lad Collis wasnt it. bring in some local players? and i know that palmer got a few lads in to just to steady the ship.
Isnt it also true that within the couple of months they were in charge, the money (wages) were virtually cut to zero? I also know that a friend of mine who played there said they didnt even get travel expenses, and money is still owed to him. how true this is, i dont know.
In the close season then Aberaman were at it again, new managers, with high profiles with no doubt on high wages. just goes to show that football in the welsh league is going crazy!!
I think that the new gaffers are on borrowed time,not many wins, no locals, all players travelling miles, so wont stay and have a beer after games, so no money going behind the Bar. so my question is "WHO IS FUNDING THE WAGES" surely Mr Morgan is not that silly to plough money into the club until all the deadwood has gone!!
All the best to Greg/Matt on whatever you decide to do, or are doing at the moment
Chris
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Post by carol voorderman on Sept 28, 2011 13:56:39 GMT 1
or maybe Ocean Finance
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Post by Bill Yardley on Sept 28, 2011 14:35:23 GMT 1
Joe Rowley. we are on very common ground I see! keep the local lads, benifit the local community and club house have more fun then raise some money with fundraising. Im sure local players would interact with the fund raising also!
Stop asking for money from external sources if all your going to do is dillute it out of the community to some shiny faces who have no affilation with your club!
As for the previous Ive probably forgotten more about these so called higher levels of welsh football than you would ever know!
thats why im correct in saying stop paying players for the sake of your egos!
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Post by Hard Cheese on Sept 28, 2011 16:43:22 GMT 1
In response to Bill..
Round Two - Saturday October 2 (Losers receive £750)
Round Three - Saturday November 6 (Losers receive £1,500)
Round Four - Saturday January 29 (Losers receive £2,500)
Round Five - Saturday February 26 (Losers receive £6,000)
Semi Final - Saturday April 9 (Losers receive £12,500)
Final - Saturday May 7 (Losers receive £20,000).
The Welsh Cup winners will now receive £30,000
Never won the cup myself - but totally irrelevant as we are not talking about how much I personally get paid
Never been to Europe - Totally irrelevant as above (however, I know for a fact all clubs who played in Europe this season made far more than the cost of their journey)
Players get a wide range of payment which is nearly always kept secret/lied about so no-one can guess an average
But anyway....... none of the above is relevant to what is being discussed (and it is a discussion even though it seems you are getting defensive). I agree with some of what you say and personally would rather see the money being paid to players being spent on ground improvements and infrastructure. But, what you suggest is an absolute non-starter... Welsh football has moved on from how it was in the 70's, 80's and 90's and this has probably been caused by some dictation from the money being pumped into the premier league etc...
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Post by Gav on Sept 28, 2011 22:35:40 GMT 1
Well, what a joke, the club are now looking for fundraising, probably to pay the extortionate wages at the club!! ;D It beggars belief that the club can carry on paying the amount they are.. The 2 new "High Profile" managers currently picking up £200 in all accounts, how true this is we dont know, officials will not answer the questions you put to them on their forum. they have also gone down the route of "registration" to post on their forum... Last season the board got rid of a good manager/coach because 1 of the committees lads wasnt being picked then the 2 lads palmer/collins took over and did an overwhelming job to keep them up with literally no money at all. Many others would have jumped ship. Then in the close season somehow got rid of them, and got the "High Profile" football players in. I will post here instead now, it is also rumoured that they are now charging the teams playing from their ground, Which only 1 can assume that this probably goes towards wages?? I have now given up watching the team, as there is now only 1 local lad involved, whereas last going off last season there were more and more local boys interested. So who would want to help aberaman fundraise to pay their under achieving side, and fill the pockets of the board... Bottom 3 finish in my opinion Gareth Ive been a critic of the Club in the past but find your attack on them astonishing...!! How can you have a go at a club thats trying to fundraise? Surely every club in the country / world tries some sort of fundraising? In fact I have seen a few adverts recently for commercial managers at Welsh League clubs- arent they just fundraisers? Whats the problem with registering on their site then? Ive just done it and its quite straightforward, have you got something to hide? Looking at your post (and some of your previous ones on their website) i wonder if you are involved (or have been in the past) with the Club and are just looking to stir things up and create problems within, you certainly seem to have some sort of inside knowledge, although im not sure if what you are alledging is true? As regards the managers leaving in the summer im sure one couldnt carry on due to work commitments and im sure the other is still abroad, dont quote me on those though as they are what ive heard from the odd occasion i pop to a game. The Club acted in the best interests im sure, appointing 2 experienced ex pros (one of which lives locally i believe). Instead of posting constantly on internet guestbooks and forums why dont you go along to the open forum at the Club in November to air your views? Ill certainly be going to see what theyve got to say. You havent got to buy a pint if you think that the board would benefit im sure! Maybe though if you did buy a drink though it would go to the running of the club and investment in the facilities which im sure has cost the board many thousands over the last few years since it was built. Im sure there are lots of people on this board who are involved with Welsh League clubs who will know better than me how much they cost to run, without the expense of paying players. |
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Post by Gareth evs on Sept 29, 2011 8:33:30 GMT 1
Involved or have been!!!! Never and will never even think to be associated with such a club, lets be honest i have been told whats going on whilst at work travelling around the place, from carmarthen to cadicot. Why have you made it compulsory to register on your site, a few home truths which has been wriitten and deleted i would have thought. You have many teams playing from your place, you have lads scattered around the place, dont you think "Word gets around" as stated on the forum, most likely deleted now. There are certain members in the/your committee who cannot wait to shout their mouth off! No probs with registering, nothing to hide, but many posts deleted so what is the point? Did the managers leave in the summer then? Or were they pushed as the 2 "ex pros" were fingered out during last season to take over. I would like to point out that people have opinions, and are entitled to voice their concerns that is why forums/guestbooks are invented for. I would greatly like to go to the forum maybe can meet for a drink and discuss our views. As you said you used to be a critic so what has changed/converted you? Why the need for an open forum anway, find that strange as it has never been heard of before, at any club i have been at. The fundraising issue, i am by no means against them fundraising, as you said every club does it, but who benefits from this?? Maybe the open forum would explain! Lets see what happens, but i predict money pulled, players going, managers going. Time will tell. By the way i am in no way "attacking" them. As your so defensive of them i am assuming your a member of the club!!!
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then the 2 lads palmer/collins took over and did an overwhelming job to keep them up with literally no money at all. Many others would have jumped ship. Then in the close season somehow got rid of them, and got the "High Profile" football players in. 