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Post by Counting Crows on Jul 30, 2010 10:54:29 GMT 1
That's my concern Huw. If 16.16,18 is returned, will we see appeals from the likes of Ton Pentre, Ely Rangers, us, CBH and Llanwern etc.? NOTE: i've used the above 5 clubs as examples, and i am in no way suggesting that those clubs would or should appeal. I personally suspect we would see some form of appeal, and then we go round in circles again. That's why i think the FAW will come back with 18,18,18 (no one will appeal that!) and a condition that says the restructure definitely happens the following season. I could be wrong though  ;D |
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Post by Al on Jul 30, 2010 11:46:03 GMT 1
The clubs mentioned above would not be able to appeal now, as 10 days has long since passed from June 5th (the date the relegation decisions were sent out from the WL). That is why Troedyrhiw's appeal wasnt allowed, as it fell outside of the 10 day limit.
So, 16-16-18 seems to be favourite in my book, otherwise the Welsh League will have been seen to have undermined the FAW, who are after all, the govering body.
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Post by bill on Jul 30, 2010 15:17:30 GMT 1
Not a technicality - you obviously havent read the document! You are just another tosspot who knows nothing about the game, probably never even played football! Go and do something productive, like publishing some fantasy novels, as you clearly have a fantastic imagination! Sad sad puppy in my book Obviously not at all, on all counts not read document, never played and I write fantasy novels.hmmmm Seems your very bitter! were you one of the ones that voted for your club to go along with these proposals? Now your taking flack along with the league for there mistakes! If your on a committee youve probably been thrown off for 1.(costing your club) 2. voting for a league reduction What are you doing thats productive ? I have met many a chap like yourself! Big mouth, little brain blames every body else never them selves. (Never played the game!!!) what a quote! |
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Post by Crowthrice on Jul 30, 2010 16:45:42 GMT 1
I assume that once the latest decision is notified that starts a new appeal period. Tht's the way the legal system works
As clubs had until 2012-13 to bring this in why the rush? League could still do this over next 2 seasons and get independent ground inspections done.
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Post by rash07 on Jul 30, 2010 18:16:29 GMT 1
The FAW Strategic Plan!!! has to be implemented i.e teams per division maximum 16 by the start of season 2011/12 therefore which ever way the Welsh FA decide 18 teams per division relegates 5 from first 7 from second and 9 from third. If the Welsh FA decide on 16, 16, 18 then 5 teams to be relegated from the third division either way a totally wrong an unjust way of relegating teams after the effort a lot of Clubs have made to survive season 2009/10.
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Post by huwjones on Jul 31, 2010 0:16:48 GMT 1
might only be 2 relegated if no teams pass the criteria to enter the league,
cant see it being 18 18 18 after the FAW commision rec 16 16 18 but who knows
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Post by rash07 on Jul 31, 2010 22:15:01 GMT 1
I cant believe that we are no clearer today than we were at the end of last season. Surely the FAW'S decision is known???
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Post by Huw Jones on Aug 1, 2010 23:41:52 GMT 1
Although meeting called for monday 9th aug at Aberavon Beach Hotel it is my understanding the FAW have not yet met to hear clubs proposal of 54.
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Post by Guest on Aug 2, 2010 9:24:07 GMT 1
Are you serious Huw? Are you really meaning this?
Are you actually saying that the governing body that waited 4 weeks to hear an appeal when they knew there was not much time before the season starts are now, over a week after being given this proposal and now less than 2 weeks from the start of the season with no fixtures or cup draw let alone knowing who is in which leagues, have now not met up even now?
If that is the case, should we as Welsh League Clubs and a League not be asking serious questions as to the how the hell these people are allowed to run our game in Wales?
What the hell do you mean "they haven't met to discuss it yet"
There are no words to describe what I think of these idiots who are supposed to run our game. What could possibly be more important than this? I am sure there are some freebie trips all over Eurpope to arrange with the various National teams etc but I think this may actually be more important!
Mugs!
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Post by huwjones on Aug 2, 2010 11:03:24 GMT 1
It is my "understanding" not fact,I presume the Man Com are invoking the 7 day rule,we must have a decision by the 9th or there is no point in the meeting
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Post by Carolynn Purcell on Aug 2, 2010 12:42:19 GMT 1
Huw, I'm a bit new to all this but I have received the agenda this morning and been told that the club only has one vote, but there is nothing on the agenda to suggest that there would be a vote on anything.
Surely if the clubs were to vote on anything then it should be on the agenda. I could not send the secretary of the club to a meeting not knowing what he is going to vote for. My club as most clubs are, is run by a committee and the committee have to discuss anything that is going to affect the club before the secretary is sent to vote.
The last meeting was exactly the same, the secretary had to vote to agree with the FAW or not. Now this was not on the agenda and he was put in a difficult position and had to vote as he thought we as a committee would have voted.
This can not be right, is this the way the Welsh league conduct all meetings?
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Post by Guest on Aug 2, 2010 14:41:18 GMT 1
Irrelevant!
Get off your moral high horse and tell your secretary to do whatever it takes to get this season started on time. We have all had enough of debating this s£$t now. We want out fixtures, we want our cup draw and we want to play our football please.
All these points of principle, however correct or incorrect they may be, are NOT as important as THE FOOTBALL!
Now all of you, leave it there, get off your moral high horses and just get this done once and for all.
Shocking!
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Post by westwalian on Aug 2, 2010 17:42:15 GMT 1
You are right Carolyn.
Our club committee discussed the possibilities last time.
16, 16, 18.
16, 16, 16,
18, 18, 18
and decided on which to vote for if they came up.
Once again we will have to guess what the proposals will be to allow our delegate to vote the way the club committee want him to.
I would have thought the Welsh League could have informed the clubs of the FAW decision of last week at least.
If they did not accept the proposal, the only way forward with the time constraint is to take it to an EGM as last time.
Do not know if it can be resolved there though, as they would still have to take it back to the FAW I presume.
Getting fed up with it now, but perhaps that is the tactic, so that they get what they want.
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Post by Reaper on Aug 2, 2010 19:47:26 GMT 1
I'm so glad that my team play in the English pyramid!!!!
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Post by huwjones on Aug 3, 2010 0:26:44 GMT 1
Hi Caroline thete is a difference here these :-Xare Egm s or Sgm s so unlike an Agm there is no agenda I think its a standard letter or template but does lead to confusion  eirhrr we adopt the faw decision or we dont I think the vote was to go back faw but accept their decision so there shouldnt b need to vote but wirh this soap opera who knows |
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eirhrr we adopt the faw decision or we dont I think the vote was to go back faw but accept their decision so there shouldnt b need to vote but wirh this soap opera who knows