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Post by Croeso i cymru on Jul 16, 2010 21:19:57 GMT 1
If its true that both Risca and Pontyclun both win appeals does anybody have any idea what this will mean to the make up of the 3 divisions for next season? Or will there be more appeals?  |
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Post by crowthrice on Jul 16, 2010 21:56:30 GMT 1
Who knows? Will the Welsh League make their top two leagues the biggest so most games have a full complement of officials ? Or will they think easiest thing to do is have a huge third division ?
Maybe they should call an EGM or recall the AGM and put say 3 proposals to the meeting and spell out what each would mean. They could spell out each proposal in writing and have an adjournment for clubs to consider the proposals ,consult etc.
The meeting would reconvene to have a secret vote.The outcome of the vote would be binding on all clubs.
However its likely to be 1 proposal -more appeals -CHAOS
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Post by Gareth Morgan on Jul 16, 2010 21:59:37 GMT 1
I have spoken to one of the club officials involved and it means that the division 3 league will run with 18 teams next season with the other 2 carrying on as planned!!
I for one hope against hope that this is an end to it now and we can all get on with it!
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Post by Counting Crows on Jul 17, 2010 10:17:26 GMT 1
Crazy. 16, 16, and 18?!
And 'random' clubs in division three's 'relegation zone' not going down.
Crazy.
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Post by wlfan on Jul 17, 2010 10:29:15 GMT 1
I fully agree Gareth.
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Post by rash07 on Jul 17, 2010 18:47:43 GMT 1
I think it should be Division 1 - 18 teams, Division 2 - 16 teams and Division 3 - 16 teams. Then Ammanford's proposal of a reduction over two years starting Season 2010-11 with four teams relegated (which should have happened this season ooops!) then eventually we will end up with what was agreed at the Stratigic meeting, AGM and EGM. There should be noway that the decision should be made by the Welsh League Committee. It should be decided at another Egm i.e there's a good chance that teams in the first division and second with flodlights can fit in games better than those without. Perhaps now the Welsh League should look at Treowen and decide have they got the Criteria. i.e up those 35 steps at the start of warming up then down then up again then down at half time and then up again for the start of the second half and then totally drained at the end apsolutely Crap and before someons says give your name Alun Rees Cwmamman United AFC. This season has said to me why bother!!!!
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Post by Crowthrice on Jul 17, 2010 23:10:33 GMT 1
Fair do's I understand the Welsh League Management Committee have insisted on Treowen installing a Stannah Lift or one of Kings mobile lifts.
Who needs the BBC or ITV for comedy.
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Post by Huw Jones on Jul 17, 2010 23:11:12 GMT 1
There wil be areconvened AGM prob within next ten days.
My take on it they should scrap the whole thing and go back to 54 teams,normal 3 up, 3 down.
Next season there is going to be a prob if they want reduce to 48 cos no one will support it, well very few anyways.
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Post by Counting Crows on Jul 19, 2010 11:30:43 GMT 1
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Post by Crowthrice on Jul 19, 2010 12:21:18 GMT 1
I see a Welsh league member quoted as saying FAW have not backed their own ruling so we might as well cancel it.
Might be the best option to stop a summer of uncertainty
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Post by westwalian on Jul 20, 2010 17:32:09 GMT 1
It has all been a bit of a farce.
All clubs knew that the league was to be reduced to 48 teams after last season's AGM.
The problem has been that two different criteria was being used.
The new criteria for clubs entering the league and the 1988 criteria being used to eliminate clubs.
Probably because some of the bigger clubs would not meet the new criteria.
If the 1988 criteria was mentioned in the AGM, perhaps we would not have this problem.
Personally, I do not believe Pontyclun meets the new criteria, but the FAW have found in their favour, along with Risca. They had the guts to appeal and good on them, but if they stay in the league, Seven Sisters, Troedyrhiw and Llantwit have to also.
Our club for one will be supporting a status quo and will vote against the reduction to 48 clubs next season. There was too much money flying around the 3rd division due to the likelihood of losing Welsh League status. This money could have been spent on ground improvements. Now, these clubs will be going cap in hand to the WGI and asking for grants to cover this.
All will be revealed next Monday.
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Post by football fan on Jul 20, 2010 23:24:53 GMT 1
Just a few words to pontyclun and risca you have caused murder with your little appeals.
Its a sad day when you knew full well you were down but you had to get a high powered barrister involved to dig you out of the mess you got yourself into
I hope for one and i speak for most welsh league clubs that you have a
shocking season and finish in the bottom 2, oh ye you will probably squirm out of that to, one word pathetic
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Post by Al on Jul 21, 2010 11:32:21 GMT 1
Football Fan - you obviously have no idea what went on in the appeal (same as everyone else), so how can you say such stupid things?
Dont forget these clubs put their appeals in at the beginning of June, it is the authorities who took this long to schedule a hearing, so dont blame the clubs.
You are obviously ill-informed and should have taken the time to find out the FACTS before your childish little rant.
These clubs havent done anything that you or I wouldn't have done in the same position, if you knew the rules had been broken by the League. Otherwise, the appeals would have failed if no rules had been broken.
Grow up!
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Post by Counting Crows on Jul 21, 2010 11:58:41 GMT 1
Good post WestWalian.
I do believe a reduction to 16-team divisions would be beneficial, but i think it has to be done in stages and money should be made available for ground improvements.
Better drainage, floodlights (D1) and four less games per season will see each season finish on time and prevent cup competitions being abandoned (lke the Gwent cup season just gone).
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Post by Crowthrice on Jul 22, 2010 11:22:59 GMT 1
I think the first thing that needs sorting out is an agreed criteria for clubs to work to. Secondly there needs to be an inspection process. Possibilities include :- a) Independent inspections. This obviously comes at a price. The League could propose this and Clubs pay an agreed contribution to the cost. b) Clubs inspect their opponents facilities when they play at their ground. However if this forum is anything thing to go by this could be a flawed process. c) ask referees and assistants to complete a standard report form for each club they visit in first month of season. you would have duplicate reports for clubs which would iron out interpretations. The League would visit any club where discrepancies are highlighted and discuss with officials what needs to be done to satisfy the criteria and a completion date(end of season). The League would publish a monthly list of the clubs that are deemed to have satisfied the criteria. Any club that has not achieved the criteria by the agreed date would be placed in the third division and if not completed by the following seasons end would be relegated from the league. All requirements and agreed timetables to be put into terms of agreement and signed by the League secretary and club officials.  |
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