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Post by curious on Jun 8, 2010 22:11:13 GMT 1
well ton pentre v porth is a big game, as are the ely derbies. there are also a couple of cwmbran teams who always play out big matches.
i don't think there's a clear favourite in division 2.
caerleon, ton pentre, ely and dinas will all be keen to make an immediate return to divison 1; but sides like cwmbran celtic, llwydcoed and the promoted buds might have other ideas. then again, with croesyceiliog winning the welsh cup they must start as one of the teams to beat?
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Post by rash07 on Jun 8, 2010 22:53:43 GMT 1
I think Ammanford will a strong team in Division 2. Didn't Cwmbran Celtic get promoted to 1 and Cwmbran relegated to three!!!!
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Post by Legend 7 on Jun 9, 2010 12:28:42 GMT 1
Curious, you must be the worst informed man in Welsh League Football!!
Cwmbran Celtic lost out on the title in the last 5 mintes of the last game of the whole season and are promoted. Caerau Ely are also promoted. Cwmbran Town are relegated so the only Cwmbran team aer Croesyceiliog and who knows what will happen there this summer after their Cup victory.
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Post by rash07 on Jun 9, 2010 12:36:39 GMT 1
Just stating my views and just pointing out when someone says Cwmbran then I naturally assumed Cwmbran sounding names not Croesyceiliog who incidently won the Welsh League Cup and not the Welsh Cup. Still think Ammanford will do well (just my opinion) as I am entitled to.
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Post by Legend 7 on Jun 9, 2010 16:06:09 GMT 1
Rash,
You may want to read back, calm down, and see that my reply was to "Curious" not you!
Who said Croesi won the Welsh Cup? I know I certainly didn't - again, you may want to read back....
On the topic of Croesi, it is they who are the big rivals with Celtic, not Cwmbran Town. I went to the game at Celtic Park last season and there were hundreds of people there.
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Post by Counting Crows on Jun 10, 2010 10:06:38 GMT 1
On the topic of Croesi, it is they who are the big rivals with Celtic, not Cwmbran Town. I went to the game at Celtic Park last season and there were hundreds of people there. I'd say Croesy and Celtic are bigger rivals. Although they both want to beat us (and us them), we've only played them competitively in the last 3 seasons. In fact this season saw the first ever competitive games between us and Celtic - it's hard to have a rivalry with a team you haven't played / don't play very often. The two games between us and Celtic were played-out in a friendly rivalry atmosphere and there was little animosity on the pitch (maybe because we have few players from NP44?) apart from one red card when a Celtic youngster lashed out in injury time. Off the pitch we had a bit of banter with the Celtic fans  Obviously over the course of the next few years i'd expect a proper rivalry to grow - as long as we stop getting relegated   
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Post by Legend 7 on Jun 15, 2010 10:37:50 GMT 1
What is the latest with this relegation thing? Is there anyone out there with some new information on it?
It was confirmed that there is a proposal in to the AGM that we withdraw from the welsh football pyramid in order to keep our 18 clubs per league status, but that is the last I heard on it.
I hear whispers there may be appeals and the likes going on but I don't know if that is true or not - our secretary is away until the day before the AGM apparently so not a lot of information passing around our end.
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Post by budsboy on Jun 15, 2010 21:58:32 GMT 1
We all knew at the start of the season, the consequences of being in the bottom seven, eight or nine of the third division when the motion was passed in the AGM wthout even a whimper. Its no good teams who are in the relegation zones of the first, second and worst of all the third wanting to change things now when in the meeting last June the motion was carried with some secs in the third stating openly in earshot "well we all know what we got to do" which was what I came across when I thought at the very least they should have staggered the relegation over a number of seasons, not one hit. This was not even considered. Its too late now.
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Post by Amazon on Jun 16, 2010 9:18:52 GMT 1
Aha, so they didn't even do the ground inspections, the whole thing is a shambles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Sven on Jun 16, 2010 10:51:29 GMT 1
Budsboy - you are totally incorrect on this I'm afraid and I have a letter dated 2nd Oct 2009 from Ken Tucker which proves it. The letter states that relegation would be based on those who failed to meet the criteria 1st, over league position! Then, as the lazy old farts on the WL committee were too lazy to get off their backsides and go out and inspect the leagues, they suddenly realised in Feb that they had a massive problem on their hands and tried to change the goalposts mid-season by forcing through a very dodgy revised version of the criteria. This version was a self-assessment 'tick box' exercise, so is it any surprise that all of a sudden ALL clubs now meet the criteria?  ? - Absolute joke!! Clubs are being punished because of the inefficiences and downright lies of the WL Managment Committee!! I hope the whole thing explodes in their faces as they totally deserve it in my eyes!! Word on the grapevine is that there are some pretty tasty legal cases being prepared against the Welsh FA and Welsh League! Im not involved with any of these clubs, but as an impartial observer, I really hope they win their cases!! |
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Post by Counting Crows on Jun 16, 2010 12:04:15 GMT 1
Fully agree. First it's ground criteria (hence some clubs shelling out thousands) to decide relegation, then when they couldn't be bothered, they switched back to the 1988 criteria (which not every club conforms to even now!) and just went with league position.
A fiasco is putting it mildly. But i doubt anything will happen...
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Post by guest on Jun 16, 2010 14:55:50 GMT 1
Budsboy - you are totally incorrect on this I'm afraid and I have a letter dated 2nd Oct 2009 from Ken Tucker which proves it. The letter states that relegation would be based on those who failed to meet the criteria 1st, over league position! Then, as the lazy old farts on the WL committee were too lazy to get off their backsides and go out and inspect the leagues, they suddenly realised in Feb that they had a massive problem on their hands and tried to change the goalposts mid-season by forcing through a very dodgy revised version of the criteria. This version was a self-assessment 'tick box' exercise, so is it any surprise that all of a sudden ALL clubs now meet the criteria? ? - Absolute joke!! Clubs are being punished because of the inefficiences and downright lies of the WL Managment Committee!! I hope the whole thing explodes in their faces as they totally deserve it in my eyes!! Word on the grapevine is that there are some pretty tasty legal cases being prepared against the Welsh FA and Welsh League! Im not involved with any of these clubs, but as an impartial observer, I really hope they win their cases!! Budsboy is correct, at the start of the season and at the egm everyone knew what was happening. I was at both meetings and at the start of the season the clubs voted to do it all in one season. Why third division clubs done this still surprises me. However it's time to take it in on the chin if you have been relegated and no good moaning now. If clubs are now hearing we didn't know what was happening that is wrong everyone at the meeting knew the situation. |
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Post by Sven on Jun 16, 2010 15:09:02 GMT 1
Guest - your view is inconsistent with the vast majority, as everyone else who came out of the meeting in Feb was saying 'what was the point of that meeting, there was no vote and nothing clarified?'.
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Post by guest on Jun 16, 2010 18:00:55 GMT 1
Guest - your view is inconsistent with the vast majority, as everyone else who came out of the meeting in Feb was saying 'what was the point of that meeting, there was no vote and nothing clarified?'. Where did I say there was a vote at the meeting in Feb. I agree the Feb meeting was a waste of time as it only told us what we already agreed at the AGM. It is a shame and hard all clubs that have suffered relegation but we knew what was happening at the start of the season. |
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Post by budsboy on Jun 16, 2010 18:03:05 GMT 1
I stood behind a Sec last June who gave it the "big un" stating that what the league was proposing (relegation of at least 8 clubs) was morally wrong and we should be looking after member clubs to which I fully agreed. But when it came to the vote, this gentleman voted for the proposal to which I was astonished. I personally felt that ground criteria would never come into it and it would be far easier for the league committee to relegate the bottom clubs so my mindset driving home to inform our manager was one of, "we need to be in the top ten mate" to secure welsh league footy.
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