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Post by Legend 7 on Jun 1, 2010 16:21:16 GMT 1
In addition, I find it hillarious that a club who hires a public facility to play it's matches has so much to say on ground criteria and the unfairness of having to wear wellies etc... You only have what you have due to public money - FACT!
Some of us have to do everything ourselves, the hard way, and not just run a raffle or 2 to pau the rent and not have any maintenance to worry about.
I would kill to have my club playing somewhere like yours and not have to worry about the criteria for ACTUAL Welsh League Grounds!
What's it like up there on that high horse eh?
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Post by Rollerball on Jun 2, 2010 9:03:25 GMT 1
Surely you would only appeal against something if it affects you?
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Post by Carolynn Purcell on Jun 2, 2010 9:10:23 GMT 1
Fancy swapping? We'd love to have our own ground and spent the last 18 months trying to negotiate with the council to move.
And I can assure you that at £200 a game (without lights) £260 (with lights) a few raffles goes no where near to paying for the hire of the stadium. The committee work dam hard to raise the money to pay for it.
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Post by Legend 7 on Jun 2, 2010 17:03:55 GMT 1
My point exactly - you HIRE your ground. You don't have your own that you maintain yourselves. I do actually feel for you in it all, but to come on here pointing the finger at clubs who do it the right way and somehow claim that despite a superior football team and having their own ground you and your inferior one should be higher because you hire out a public facility for your games is frankly ridiculous!
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Post by Carolynn Purcell on Jun 2, 2010 18:06:06 GMT 1
You missed my point. When we move to our own ground we will be subject to this criteria as well. No one is pointing any finger, but unless improvements are made we wont be able to attract new supporters along. In England even county pitches are at a much higher level than Welsh league grounds.
This is of course mainly due to alot more money being put into the game by the English FA. Its about time the the FAW stopped putting all their money into the National side (50 years should be long enough to see that its not working) and put more of the money into grass roots football, The WRU have got it right, what's your local rugby club facilities like? I would hazard a guess that they are far better than your ground..
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Post by rash07 on Jun 3, 2010 9:19:45 GMT 1
You are spot on. Three local rugby clubs close to us (within 3 mile radius) are having work done as we speak. Two new stands and pitches re-seeded what have we received from local authority or welsh league monies absolutley "NOTHING"
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Post by Huw Jones on Jun 3, 2010 13:17:26 GMT 1
From what i can decipher i think the FAW has led clubs down the garden path.The Welsh Lge management Committee told us at the AGm that these changes HAD to be implemented, no choice.
Alun Evans stood up and said no we don't have to adopt these changes, but he didn't put any up for a motion to be voted on.
Clubs were led to believe there was no choice ,were they lied to for the benefit of certain FAW Councilors to feather their own ties with UEFA damn right.The FAW was the only home union to adopt surprise surprise.
But the clubs voted it in,I personally didn't vote for it, not trying to be clever bit why oh why did the clubs vote for it.
We were told that when it came time Ground Criteria would play apart, but the Grounds Inspection committee had to go on the old criteria set back in 1988 FFS.Now its League finishing position because unbelievably all clubs ,there were 3 have passed the old criteria, new criteria coming in June 27th apparently.Just to confuse things even more next season there will be 2 ground criteria one for 1st div clubs administered by the FAW, and one for div2,3 administered by the Welsh Lge,
There is now talk of a "Class Action" being taken by certain clubs to veto the changes its going to be a bumpy ride, hang on in there
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Post by Counting Crows on Jun 4, 2010 11:29:25 GMT 1
Where did you get that info about two different ground criteria and the FAW administrating D1, Huw? I personally think it's a good think. The grounds (Barry, Aber, Bridgend + Lido apart) and attendances in the Cymru Alliance are far better than WLD1... Stop paying your players daft money and make your ground a welcoming comfortable place for spectators! Rant over  Oh, and i'd love to swap our rented facility for our own ground!! |
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Post by Guest on Jun 4, 2010 11:58:18 GMT 1
I am now hearing there is a motion to the Welsh League AGM that the entire league should withdraw from the pyramid system and go it alone to stop the downsizing!
What the hell is wrong with people?
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Post by rash07 on Jun 4, 2010 15:46:45 GMT 1
How then do teams get promoted from "Pyramid" Leagues. Surely this can't happen even though I dont agree with the number of teams that will be relegated back into the feeder leagues.
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Post by Guest on Jun 5, 2010 16:33:57 GMT 1
I can confirm that an e-mail from one club has gone to all members of the league proposing exactly this. They have also put it in writing as a motion to be discussed at the AGM!
If that were to happen, the southern feeded league for the Welsh Prem would be The Amateur League, Gwent League etc... The clubs who wanted to go up would move to those leagues I would have thought. The league would eventually die on it's backside!
Sheer lunacy, but when you consider the source of the idea it is hardly surprising
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Post by Huw Jones on Jun 5, 2010 22:03:10 GMT 1
ha cant divulge my scources but apparently its on the cards, problem would then be when the new criteria comes in if you want get to 1st div you will only have that current season to get it surreal eh, So for example if we are in the promotion mix we will have to meet the 1st div criteria whilst playing in the 2nd div.
This season all 1 st div clubs went to a meeting to discuss their criteria so there you go Caerau Ely got promoted desevedly so,but not being funny their ground is not 1st div standard is it,but they will now have a season to get it or risk being relegated.
How many current 1 st div clubs will meet the new criteria ahandfull so are we going to have a 1st div of 8 /9 clubs the mind boggles.
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Post by Counting Crows on Jun 7, 2010 11:12:40 GMT 1
I can't see the WL pulling out from the pyramid. Having said that, if they did, perhaps the FAW would create a proper regional WPL2 to feed the WPL... Fair enough Huw. I think it's a good idea to have an improved ground criteria for D1...if the idea is to have D1 clubs going for promotion to the WPL. That way, clubs who are not interested in promotion to the WPL can forget ground improvements and just hang about in D2 and D3. For a number of seasons now clubs such as Ton Pentre and Goytre United have 'blocked' other clubs from promotion. If the the ground criteria is gradual - one set for D2+3, and higher one for D1 and the Dom Lic for the WPL - then clubs can improve and progress over time. Clubs in D1 and D2 should be give 2 seasons notice though so they can decide what to do. The FAW also need to apportion funding for D1 and D2 clubs. On another note, here in the league composition for 2010/11: cwmbrantownafc.co.uk/Documents/LC.pdf |
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Post by curious on Jun 7, 2010 17:56:10 GMT 1
division 2 looks very interesting in my opinion, some big clashes there.
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Post by legend 7 on Jun 7, 2010 19:38:53 GMT 1
Big Clashes? Such as???
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