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Post by rash07 on Apr 4, 2010 15:11:01 GMT 1
There must be other people out there who cant believe the shambles thats going on in Welsh League Football at the moment regarding relegation?
Why aren't Clubs getting together and telling the powers to be where they can stick their plan! The powers to be represent the Clubs that pay their affiliation and should be representing the interests of their Clubs not being told what to do by the FAW. What do other Clubs feel like on this subject?
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Post by Budsboy on Apr 4, 2010 15:47:22 GMT 1
I thought the logical way forward at the time of the announcement of league re-structures was to carry out the downsizing of the league over a period of a couple of seasons and not use a "one hit" relegating up to 9 Welsh League teams at the end of this season. Its seems unfair especially as the league is still honoring promotion into the Welsh League from the different affiliations.  |
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Post by messylionel on Apr 5, 2010 14:03:45 GMT 1
It's a pity we couldn't have organised better beforehand. I don't know if there's anything we can do now but apart from the damage it will do to clubs it doesn't even make sense from a welsh football perspective.
The logic of the original paper went like this ...
We all want a better welsh national side. (so far so good) .
Therefore we need better welsh premier teams... (wrong!). Short of building back offa's dyke English pyramid clubs will always develop our welsh players to international standard! Period. If we were iceland or estonia or Latvia or ...etc then maybe. The consultants have taken a standard smaller nation answer to a complex question given the size and dominance of our neighbours. Its petty nationalism at best and self interest at worst.
What we therefore need is not fewer welsh league standard clubs but MORE with better coverage to catch youngsters very early (at say five /six/seven). Just to make it a question of quality we should end the obsession with facilities and look at the depth of a club...its youth policy for starters!
I'm all in favour of a better quality welsh premier league for its own sakebut it doesn't necessarily follow that you get a better welsh national side or that you sacrifice the lower tiers to get it.
Anyone out there know what if anythng we can do to get a hold on the decisions?
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Post by rash07 on Apr 6, 2010 0:06:04 GMT 1
I believe that the Welsh Premier Chairmen are trying to move the goalposts i.e 16 teams and I feel then that the Welsh League have no option but defer the relegation issue!!!
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Post by CJ Crow on Apr 7, 2010 9:29:46 GMT 1
I agree, we cant sit back and let the old men at the top railroad this through. At last years AGM clubs voted blindly not knowing what they were letting themselves in for, yes reduce the league size and bring in stricter ground criteria, but not in one season. CRAZY!!
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Post by Counting Crows on Apr 7, 2010 10:23:50 GMT 1
I'm not sure who voted for what or when, but my reading of it was the FAW wants to reduce the WPL to 12 (and to 10 for season 2012/13) and the directly affiliated feeder leagues - Welsh League, Cymru Alliance, Welsh Alliance, Mid Wales League and Welsh National (Wrexham Area) League - each to 16. The WPL clubs voted for a reduction, and are now back-tracking. But were Welsh League clubs given the opportunity to vote for or against a reduction to 16? Or is the decision being steamrollered through? One thing i will say is that i'm not sure how you would get each division of the WL down to 16 each over a number of seasons...unless you first move to 17-team divisions one season then to 16 the next. Would people want 17-team divisions?  |
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Post by CJ Crow on Apr 13, 2010 15:05:28 GMT 1
is it too late to get some sort of petition going around the clubs? If we email everyone it wont take that long. How to word it........
Are you happy with the way the welsh League are going ahead with the downsizing of the leagues?
Do you think it should be done over a few seasons?
What do people think?
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Post by legend7 on Apr 13, 2010 15:32:44 GMT 1
I believe that the clubs were naive in the first place for voting in something they did not have chapter and verse on! Although I think it is so wrong on so many levels to be relegating o many clubs in every league, it has been known for a long time that this is the case. It was on our club website from September onwards so it must have been known then.
It is too late now is my view and we have to just roll with it - and my club is one of those that is in danger of being relegated from a mid-table position by the way.
The last thing any Manager or club needs this summer is for which league they will be in to be decided a week before the start of the season, which is what will happen if we all start trying to clock it now.
It was fundamentaly wrong from day one, but it is only the clubs who will suffer as a consequence now - on the whole - who are jumping up and down.
Do I wish it was different - Yes! Do I believe we should make a farce out of the league by fighting it all summer? - No!
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Post by Alun Rees on Apr 16, 2010 12:16:02 GMT 1
I dont think its too late and I think Clubs would prefer 17 team divisions and then 16 the following year. As one user suggested a blanket email to all Clubs but we need to start the ball rolling. Remember the Season finishes on May 22nd. Clubs have the right to ask for another EGM as long as there is a percentage. Come on someone lets get this one started and show that Welsh League Clubs have backbone to fight the men in their ivory towers.
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Post by Counting Crows on Apr 16, 2010 14:19:56 GMT 1
Are there enough club chairmen out there who want to appeal?
Will it just be chairmen of relegation-threatened clubs?
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Post by Rollerball on Apr 18, 2010 12:01:38 GMT 1
Legend 7 - The clubs originally voted on making the leagues smaller at last years AGM, at the meeting nobody knew how it would be done and it wasnt until Januray of this year at the EGM that the clubs were made aware of how exactly the league planned to do this.
It makes total sense to do it over a couple of seasons and I think clubs should apeal against it.
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Post by Guest on Apr 18, 2010 17:02:21 GMT 1
A 17 team league? So every weekend there will be a team without a game? Farce! This is why leagues have even numbers of teams in them!
My view is (and my club is looking likely to be a mid table relegation candidate) we just live with it. Plus, I agree with the earlier post, to try and do something now is surely a bit late - generally only the in trouble clubs will kick off, which makes it a far weaker argument!
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Post by legend7 on Apr 18, 2010 17:14:19 GMT 1
This is exactly my point. Clubs were very naive to vote in favor of something before knowing how it would be implemented. They didn't. So now, in my humble opinion, they have to handle the consequences of such actions!
Agree totally with Guest - to have an odd number of clubs in the leagues would be ridiculous. After the winter we just had the last thing anyone needs is to be a fixture behind in the dry months.
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Post by Sven on Apr 20, 2010 15:11:07 GMT 1
Im sure enough clubs will get behind this to force an EGM but if we want it to happen, it needs to happen NOW! Question is, who can get the ball rolling? |
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Post by messylionel on Apr 21, 2010 12:06:28 GMT 1
Just sya there was an EGM. And just say there was a proposal to say sod it. What is the consequence of that apart from keeping a 54 team Welsh League?
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