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Post by GK union on Jun 27, 2011 11:12:49 GMT 1
Albion,
The majority of sides in Division 2 did not finish till 28th May this year. That is with 16 teams. Whilst the farce at the start of last season did nothing to help matters, there was still too much football to be played in April and May.
If we get a season that finishes in April I will be more than happy, as would a lot of other players out there I think - especially Keepers. We don't like this hard ground nonsense.
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Post by albion on Jun 27, 2011 11:18:59 GMT 1
Mate, we started the season 3 weeks late and one of the harshest winter breaks we've ever had with 9 weeks off on the middle, and stupid Saturdays off for international games.
18 teams in the league has worked well, just asking the question why change it?
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Post by Puzzled on Jun 27, 2011 11:20:16 GMT 1
What are cwmbran and porthcawl actually apealing against?
The both finished in the bottom 2!!!!!!
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Post by rash07 on Jun 27, 2011 11:24:02 GMT 1
I am thinking ground criteria?
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Post by Dan on Jun 27, 2011 11:25:08 GMT 1
In the case of Cwmbran, Maybe its because they finished fifth from bottom last season and still got relegated. Not sure about Porthcawl though.
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Post by rash07 on Jun 27, 2011 11:27:46 GMT 1
Surely last season has nothing to do with it or they would have appealed last year?
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Post by Dan on Jun 27, 2011 11:32:07 GMT 1
I was being facetious... it probably is ground criteria.
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Post by rash07 on Jun 27, 2011 11:34:04 GMT 1
Was there a mention of appeals at the AGM on Saturday?
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Post by GK union on Jun 27, 2011 11:50:39 GMT 1
Albion,
Perhaps they asked the question how do we fit in 34 league games + the Welsh and League Cups (and Gwent Senior Cup for the unlucky Gwent teams) if you write off 1-2 months of the season due to the weather.
For the teams with floodlights its not so much a problem but, when you have got about 70% (guess) of the clubs in the Welsh League without lights, it involves a hectic start and end to the season.
What is the cheaper option? Help Welsh League clubs financially to improve grounds or reduce the leagues to 16.
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Post by Puzzled on Jun 27, 2011 11:52:23 GMT 1
Well surely a team that is not good enough,is more detrimental to the league than a ground??
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Post by sportsman on Jun 27, 2011 14:06:56 GMT 1
we all know that's not true, ground criteria/club structure is much more important. how can we develop the standard of the league if teams are forced to play on awful grounds like caerleon's, and not on grounds like cwmbran stadium?
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Post by guest2 on Jun 27, 2011 14:28:09 GMT 1
i believe cwmbran appealed on ground criteria. alledgely 5 teams failed there inspections and should therefore not be allowed to continue in welsh league football. surely that is the way forward, teams must be able to maintain ground standards or drop to a league with less standards.
good point about fixtures being announced before the agm as well! why are these people still running this league? in my opinion its about time clubs stood up and said they are not happy, welsh league football is a joke and its run by people who are living in the 70's. wont never happen though as i also believe risca made proposals to change things at the agm and were out voted. typical of clubs just looking after themselves.
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Post by mac1 on Jun 27, 2011 15:18:20 GMT 1
to puzzled i totally agree mate!!! ok some grounds may not be as good as others but surely you cannot condemn a group of hard working footballers for finish way up the league and allow a team who have not performed stay in league because of there ground?? that a joke!!! so my side with no cash can bring in a group of nobodies but as long AS THEY HAVE MONEY TO PUT IN CLUB WE ARE HAPPY TO GET BEAT 5.O EVERY WEEK BECAUSE WE WONT GO DOWN BECAUSE OF OUR GROUND.. spot on puzzled.. example barry town got a nice ground but now money has dried up they may fold!!!! so???
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Post by sportsman on Jun 27, 2011 16:12:22 GMT 1
you've missed the nail there and hit your thumb with the hammer.
your point about barry town is not valid, everyone is aware of the mitigating circumstances surrounding their issues.
the fact is that players who are good enough will find their way to the right clubs. if you structure the leagues on ground criteria then good players will soon move to those clubs because they want to play in the highest league they can.
it would also stop teams throwing money at their players and neglecting their facilities.
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Post by fairplay on Jun 27, 2011 16:19:36 GMT 1
Simple answer to all this and that is, if the Welsh League implemented the rules re grounds as per the handbook there would be no trouble at all and clubs would accept this. Maybe as the Management committee are to afraid to implement this rule why dont they get an independent panel to visit these grounds and make the decision for them. If I was with a relegated club and knew there were clubs kept in the League without the required facilities as per the rules I would also appeal.
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